Digital Delay that Can Take High Gain (solved)

Abram4235

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FWIW - I just bought another DD2, thinking my original was malfunctioning. If that isn't the case, I'll most likely try a TC Nova like @chrisr0712 and @Jimmy3Fingers recommended. That one looks really solid. And if THAT doesnt work, I'm just going to stick with my Echoplex.
 

Jabby92

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Boss stuff has worked well for me. DD-7 in particular, or the DD-3. If you can afford it, the TimeFactor is real nice.
 

Skreddy

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Yeah, it sounds like it's your volume blasting the delay's input. I would recommend setting your gain pedals a bit closer to unity gain (a little boost is okay, but limit that to the amount of clean headroom that your delay pedal is capable of), and if you need a volume boost, use a clean boost after your delay. Also research whether or not your delay is capable of handling 18v power instead of 9; that will boost its headroom.
 

Abram4235

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Yeah, it sounds like it's your volume blasting the delay's input. I would recommend setting your gain pedals a bit closer to unity gain (a little boost is okay, but limit that to the amount of clean headroom that your delay pedal is capable of), and if you need a volume boost, use a clean boost after your delay. Also research whether or not your delay is capable of handling 18v power instead of 9; that will boost its headroom.
Good call on the voltage. Didnt think of that one. Thanks!
 
It is not a digital delay, but I always thought the El Capistan excelled at taking gain. Its one of the things I always liked and noticed about the pedal that I rarely experienced with other delays, when I was putting more gain through it I still was loving the El Capistan being on.

If you adjust the parameters, you can get fairly "clean" repeats.
 

mertay

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I mostly play shred and must say my experience is mostly the sweet sounding delays (strymon, tape or expensive BBD stuff...) mostly didn't work for me. They just don't blend so well as in your experience.

But the budget-good stuff (boss dd-7 for typical digital delay or mxr carbon copy if you want reverb-like fullness) simply does the trick. I really liked the Boss DD-500 when demoed at a store and do want to try the Strymon DIG someday too...
 

2tone

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Yeah, it sounds like it's your volume blasting the delay's input. I would recommend setting your gain pedals a bit closer to unity gain (a little boost is okay, but limit that to the amount of clean headroom that your delay pedal is capable of), and if you need a volume boost, use a clean boost after your delay. Also research whether or not your delay is capable of handling 18v power instead of 9; that will boost its headroom.
Agree with Skreddy. His delay is also very good with fuzz's and gain. The DD2 should also work. The Cornish TES is one of the best for stability and headroom, and it's a DD@ with Pete's mods. I also like somewhat near unity to slightly above when running fuzz's and OD's into a delay. That will work with most of them..
 

Hugh_s

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Man, my delay got rained on at a show last Friday, soaked and stopped working. I likely need to replace it.
 
TC Electronics Nova Delay?
I think the Nova Delay deals with high gain better than my Boss DD-20 did. I also noticed a clear improvement by using a Klotz Lagrange guitar cable instead of Monster 500 or others that I have traditionally used. Klotz has AMAZING clarity.
 

Abram4235

Supporting Member
I think the Nova Delay deals with high gain better than my Boss DD-20 did. I also noticed a clear improvement by using a Klotz Lagrange guitar cable instead of Monster 500 or others that I have traditionally used. Klotz has AMAZING clarity.
Ah what the hell, just bought the Nova as well. 110 on reverb in excellent cond with box etc, free shipping. Couldnt really pass it up. So I'll be comparing that and a (different) DD2 next week.
 

pup tentacle

Silver Supporting Member
Another suggestion for any version of Echolution 2... 18v of headroom, and my favorite digital delay. Also, the prices it can be found for make it a steal of a deal. If you want to go analog and money is no issue, the Moog 104m can take any level of gain you throw at it.
 

FokenBusker

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I hear you man. I really wanted to make that pedal work. I tried everything. I really liked the sound of the delay and even liked the preamp before ODs. It had it's own sound and was great before ODs but the signal level dropped too much when I switched to my clean sound. And when I put it after my ODs, I got this compressed mess of a sound that sounded like a blanket was over my amp. I would have kept it if the signal didn't drop with my cleans.

Since then, I test every new pedal in a single true bypass loop so I know what the affect on the signal it. I'm not expecting no change in sound of course, but an obvious negative effect is a no go.
I had a learning curve with my BED regarding this. I found that for my current setup, where I was putting my BED into the FX loop, I had to turn up the amp's preamp and drop the master volume a tad to compensate. Getting that happy medium of my dry signal in the mix before the repeats took a bit of practice but I got it down now. Sorry the unit never worked out for you. It's definitely not an every day unit but once you find that sweet spot, BOOOOOOM.

I also found that it was easier to dial in their "mode 6" DMM setting for starting off. The repeats were darker and hence less "chirpy." Works great for the FX loop, possibly better than the EP-3 mode, which would make sense, since the EP-3 was designed to hit the front of the amp instead.
 
I think you will enjoy the Nova Delay. It does run at 12v although you can use 9v and it work fine...just better headroom at the recommended 12v. I've used the DD2 also and while it is the standard for clean crisp digital delay, I like the option to tweak the tone of the repeats (+ add modulation if needed)
 


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