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Digitech Trio+ placement in chain...

hendrix2430

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Hello, I'm toying with the ideas of getting a Trio+ with looper, and have watched numerous videos.

It looks to be an excellent piece of kit, but I'm just not sure where it might fit in my effects chain. I run a Carr Rambler - single channel amp - and use a couple of dirt pedals + delay and chorus.

Where would the trio fit in there? Obviously trying to get the best signal to the trio, while avoiding distorted drums and bass to my speaker.

I have a ditto and run it after everything. Am I correct in assuming the trio needs to go at the end as well with all pedals in front?

Or do pedals need to go in the effects loop of the trio? If so, does it affect the sound of the effects?

Thanks for the advice!
 
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Haunting Mids

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End of chain.

Great looper indeed.
I played with mine today (got it yesterday) and it sounds like a very good product.
The power dc was not working, though.
You have to find a way to make the band understand correctly your idea.














So like in a real band.:D
 

Clark GriswoId

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End of chain.

Great looper indeed.
I played with mine today (got it yesterday) and it sounds like a very good product.
The power dc was not working, though.
You have to find a way to make the band understand correctly your idea.














So like in a real band.:D
Power DC?

Yes, end of chain
 

hendrix2430

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Thanks, so then overdrives in front, and modulation too? If drives AND modulation are in front, will the trio be able to detect properly? And wouldn't the bass/drums work better after the modulation?
 

Tom Von Kramm

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I'm cursed. Every time I buy something with a power supply, it doesn't work.
Same thing happened with my Strymon Flint and a EHX Micro Pog...
No biggie, I took a One Spot wallwart to feed the hungry Trio+ (800mA).
That's a warranty item, PM me your shipping address.
 

Haunting Mids

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Thanks, so then overdrives in front, and modulation too? If drives AND modulation are in front, will the trio be able to detect properly? And wouldn't the bass/drums work better after the modulation?
Dunno, I tried with just an overdrive.
There shouldn't be any problem with a delay. The delay affects the loop, not the band side.
 

Clark GriswoId

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Thanks, so then overdrives in front, and modulation too? If drives AND modulation are in front, will the trio be able to detect properly? And wouldn't the bass/drums work better after the modulation?
Send clean signal when you teach it- after it learns- you can loop any signal over the bass and drums
 

CEFlint

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I use my Trio+ last thing in my amp loop before the return. I turn off all effects while "teaching" the Trio. Then, I can record any/all effects into the looper.
I also run the Mixer out of the Trio to a small powered speaker (VoiceSolo FX150). This keeps the bass & drums separate from the guitar signal. Works great, and I literally use it at some point every day.
 
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Clark GriswoId

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I use my Ditto+ last thing in my amp loop before the return. I turn off all effects while "teaching" the Ditto. Then, I can record any/all effects into the looper.
I also run the Mixer out of the Ditto to a small powered speaker (VoiceSolo FX150). This keeps the bass & drums separate from the guitar signal. Works great, and I literally use it at some point every day.
Ditto+??
 

Ugly Bunny

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Okay - the Trio goes FIRST in your chain. All your effects go in the loop, then the "amp out" would go to the front of your amp. It's different if you have an FX loop, but NO MATTER WHAT - the Trio needs to go FIRST. Good luck; and have fun. It's probably the most used pedal I've ever owned :)
 

Clark GriswoId

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Okay - the Trio goes FIRST in your chain. All your effects go in the loop, then the "amp out" would go to the front of your amp. It's different if you have an FX loop, but NO MATTER WHAT - the Trio needs to go FIRST. Good luck; and have fun. It's probably the most used pedal I've ever owned :)
No, it does not
 

Ugly Bunny

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No, it does not
It absolutely does. It even says so in the Trio+ manual.

Granted, you can put it wherever you want if you're ALWAYS playing perfectly clean. But for optimal tracking, it is the first pedal. With all the pedals in its loop, you can record clean, dirty, reverbed, dry, and everything in between (whatever's in your chain). If you're ONLY going to be using it as a looper, you can put it at the end.
 

Ugly Bunny

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Pretend the oval that says "Pod 2.0" are your pedals. Use the "To Amp" to the front of your amp and this is the optimal setup. If you have a separate mixer/amp/speaker setup for the drums & bass, even better. But this setup lets the Trio+ track your playing for tha backing tracks as well as lets you record/loop whatever level of distortion or wetness you like to the looper.

Trust me. I've been using this pedal since it came out. Ask @DigiTechRep if you have questions/concerns.

The Trio+ goes first :)

(FYI, I'm aware this is TGP and many people feel their fuzz face or whatever magical pedal won't work if it's not the first pedal, so of course everything is subjective and personal preference)

This was my setup when I first got it: had a stereo loop on my Kemper and used a massive pedalboard with a stereo time-based (FX loop) section. It was glorious:

The main issue with this setup was that the Trio+ itself wasn't stereo. So I had to compromise the tones I was able to record in the looper; but it's okay since I usually have a pretty dry backing track and my main solo tone is dripping wet (well, it was back then).

This way works too, which is essentially having it at the end of all your pedals:

As long as you "teach" the Trio with a nice clean tone, you'll be fine.

-Cheers!
 
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