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DiMarzio 36th Anni Paf - Tone report

DownByLaw

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Howdy all,

Well, I don't review much, because frankly I don't buy much that often, but recently I dropped a 36th Anniversary in the bridge of my much loved '93 strat plus deluxe, so I thought I'd share.

Previously I had a Suhr SSV+ in the bridge, and although I quite like it, after reading some of the commentary on the DiMarzio I thought it might be closer to ideal. (other previous bridge pickups: Original Red Sensor, JB junior, Suhr LPS, Anderson Single)

My strat is ash/maple neck, and is a very big/fat sounding guitar with very prominent highs. Main amp is a VHT clx, main music hard to very hard rock and blues based music. I quite like mids, and don't want my guitar to sound like a bass or compete with a bass on recordings. Think Zeppelin, not Metallica.

Early impressions of the 36th are great. Really even, very balanced with forward mids that are chewy and not grating. Nicely tight bottom end, while still having a bit of an elastic quality. Highs are present, but not shrill or cutting in a bad way. Overall the pickup really seems to let the "wood" of the guitar shine through, with an acoustic like air about it, even under heavy gain. (and I mean really heavy, sometimes approaching metal levels) Feeds back in a really cool way, quite controllable.

As my guitar has a bit of a scooped quality, the forward mids really evened out the bridge position. Cleans up very nicely as well, very musical. Crunchy without being overbearing. Punchy without being too hot. Really mixes nicely with the Suhr LPs I have in the middle and neck positions, the output between the 3 just seems "right". My strat is equipped with a TA switcheroo and currently I am running the 36th in parallel/series rather than series/split due to the remarkable tones I get when running the parallel mode with the singles. Either way it sounds great.

This is all very subject to the particular guitar/amp combo I have, but I'll compare the SSV+ to the 36th with my setup:

36th - very even and balanced, mid forward, lower output but with balls, mixes nicely in SSH. Great for my standard, open G, and dropped D tunings.

SSV+ - hotter, (slightly) more bottom, less mids, not as even, more emphasis on highs and lows, looser bottom, spiker top. Somewhat more nasal with more of a drastic leap when switching from singles to bucker position. Doesn't clean up quite as well, tends to darken when doing so. Great for standard, dropped D, didn't like open G quite as much. (shrill)

Again my guitar, my rig. But I didn't see many review for this p.u. in the strat bridge position, particularly my wood combo. Hope this helps.

Patrick
 

rjpilot

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Thanks for the time to type this out. I'm glad you're enjoying the pickup. Did you ever try the regular JB vs the JBjr out of curiosity.? What didn't you like of the JB jr?
 

jlagrassa

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36th Anniversy pups are awesome pickups, I have a set in my Les Paul they are my favorite PAF to use.
 

Jimi D

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I've got a 36th Anni PAF in the bridge position of my ESP Eclipse II, matched with a Gibson P94 in the neck... It's just a great sounding guitar! It came with EMGs in it, which I swapped out for Duncan P-Rails for a year before changing up to what I've got now about two years back. These pups ended my search... :)
 

Rupe

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Sorry, but when I read in one sentence that your Strat is "a very big/fat sounding guitar" and then in another that "my guitar has a bit of a scooped quality"...I have a hard time taking your evaluation seriously.
 

RCM78

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Sorry, but when I read in one sentence that your Strat is "a very big/fat sounding guitar" and then in another that "my guitar has a bit of a scooped quality"...I have a hard time taking your evaluation seriously.
Well then you dont have an Ash Strat with a Maple neck. The OP described the tone of my Ash Maple strat to a tee...

Acoustically they have a big low end with prominent musical highs. The mids are scooped out a bit... Nice fat sounding guitars...
 

GearFlipper

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Glad you like the pickups.

Please explain the difference between "chewy" mids and those that are not so chewy. ;)
 

kleydj13

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Sorry, but when I read in one sentence that your Strat is "a very big/fat sounding guitar" and then in another that "my guitar has a bit of a scooped quality"...I have a hard time taking your evaluation seriously.
Big/fat sounding is a pretty subjective statement. Fat seems to describe prominent low end of some sort, but could vary from different guitar players.

Scooped is a more objective statement. I assume it refers to an EQ curve with lots of bass/treble while cutting mids.

I don't see why those two descriptions must necessarily be contradictory and therefore the entire review should be rejected.
 

DownByLaw

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So sorry, let me expound a bit on the natural sound of my guitar so I may be taken seriously, as this is serious business.

Visualize, aurally if you will, a guitar with big bottom and a bright top that has a lot of natural volume and output. (some may say this is somewhat natural for the wood combo, some may think I'm joking) Now, say you're me, not looking to lose those qualities, but perhaps to dial up the mids a bit, which, while there, are not on the order of say, a Les Paul. Looking for bit of EQ adjustment if you feel comfortable with that. A bit of tailoring to my amp, if I may be so bold. Even it out a some, if that doesn't offend you.

Truly I'm sorry if I confused you. I would have typed more slowly.

Patrick

Sorry, but when I read in one sentence that your Strat is "a very big/fat sounding guitar" and then in another that "my guitar has a bit of a scooped quality"...I have a hard time taking your evaluation seriously.
 

DownByLaw

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I did briefly try a regular JB, but found it mushy on the lows and too brittle on the highs.

The JBjr is a fine pickup, but I wouldn't call it as "full range" as a full sized HB. A bit too focused with my current setup. My amp when the guitar was loaded with the JBjr was a Mesa Studio 22+, which I found wasn't nearly as pickup sensitive.

Patrick

Thanks for the time to type this out. I'm glad you're enjoying the pickup. Did you ever try the regular JB vs the JBjr out of curiosity.? What didn't you like of the JB jr?
 

1973Marshall

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Agree with this thread

Tried the 36th twice in an LP (not mine) and the review matched this one spot on. If I had the need I'd put 36th's in any HB guitar. The price is killer!

With the JB Jr, agreed - very crunchy and kinda stiff. Very high gain and harsh, but definitely works and has that classic sound lurking in it.. I preferred the Lil 59 but the Lil lacks the output.
 

Rupe

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So sorry, let me expound a bit on the natural sound of my guitar so I may be taken seriously, as this is serious business.

Visualize, aurally if you will, a guitar with big bottom and a bright top that has a lot of natural volume and output. (some may say this is somewhat natural for the wood combo, some may think I'm joking) Now, say you're me, not looking to lose those qualities, but perhaps to dial up the mids a bit, which, while there, are not on the order of say, a Les Paul. Looking for bit of EQ adjustment if you feel comfortable with that. A bit of tailoring to my amp, if I may be so bold. Even it out a some, if that doesn't offend you.

Truly I'm sorry if I confused you. I would have typed more slowly.

Patrick
You're still typing too fast.

I think of "fat" and "scooped" as opposites...not all of you do. Carry on.
 






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