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dire straights "brothers in arms" = greatest amp and guitar tone ever!

MRscratch

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i mean the song.OH my god, i havent heard it in 10 years. im sure its a lesky, but what is the amp? what an incredible song for tone and lyrics! wow !!!
educate me!
 

retro

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IIRC he used a JTM45 quite a bit back in the day...but...

"I remember Mark's Les Paul Junior going through a Laney amp, and that was the sound of 'Money For Nothing'," says Dorfsman. "We were actually going for a sort of ZZ Top sound, but what we ended up getting was kind of an accident. Mark would be in the control room and we'd run a lead out to the main area, and I remember getting a channel set up to monitor, heading out to the room to move the mics around, and Mark's guitar tech Ron Eve getting on the talkback and telling me not to touch anything because it sounded amazing as it was.

"One mic was pointing down at the floor, another was not quite on the speaker, another was somewhere else, and it wasn't how I would want to set things up — it was probably just left from the night before, when I'd been preparing things for the next day and had not really finished the setup. Nevertheless, whether it was the phase of the mics or the out-of-phaseness, what we heard was exactly what ended up on the record. There was no additional processing on that tune during the mix.

"Later on, we tried to recreate that guitar sound at the Power Station with the same amp, same setup and same models of microphone, but we could never get it. I'd drawn extensive pictures and had a little map of how everything was set up, but there must have been something weird going on to make the guitar sound that way in Montserrat, because in New York it sounded like a cleaner, karaoke version of the same thing. I messed around with it for a good couple of hours, but Mark was just getting bored and wanted to move on. The whole thing was very confusing.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may06/articles/classictracks_0506.htm#4
 

Mikeroesoft

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One of my fav's too. I was under the impression that it was a Les Paul into a JTM45 and that volume pedal. Great sound! My ideal guitar tone.
 

Rupe

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Easily in my top 5 all-time favoite songs. The touch, tone, and phrasing are perfection IMO. :aok
 

MRscratch

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cool! i kinda been getting it with the normal channel of my SLO. with my R7 gold top. i love the double stops he does.
 

goneracin

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It is a les paul, I think he said just an old 80's standard, into an old JTM45.
this is one of my top 5 favorite tones of all time
 

Franklin

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Amazing tune, phrasing and tone. They hit it way outta the park on that one. It's one of the tunes that inspired me to play!
 

torquil

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Although I'm not a big fan of Dire Straits, I find "Brothers in Arms" to be a great song and the guitar tone is incredible. Don't forget the finger picking.
 

sunkidd

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I saw the "Brothers in Arms" live show back in the mid '80's...
Fantastic show! It was one of the best shows I've ever seen....
Dire Straights was an amazingly tight band and took the audience thru a musical journey with awesome dynamics in sound...
 

Tone_Terrific

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Listening now (studio version), it sounds kind of 'funny' for that named rig.
I suspect phase 'problems' that just happened to create a useful, unique tone.
No wonder they couldn't get it the next time.
 

big mike

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Phase problems? I don't think that's correct.
I know Mark's Les Paul has out of phase pickups, or push pull or some such. Similar to PG or Page. I think that's a lot of it.

Soldanos were the road rig back then, wonder what the studio amp was. But Mark's so amazing, i bet it's close to that same tone through anything.
 

goneracin

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Phase problems? I don't think that's correct.
I know Mark's Les Paul has out of phase pickups, or push pull or some such. Similar to PG or Page. I think that's a lot of it.

Soldanos were the road rig back then, wonder what the studio amp was. But Mark's so amazing, i bet it's close to that same tone through anything.
JTM45. An original 196? something JTM45. I have a pretty credible source for that info...... :D
 




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