Divided by 13 and Cornish, help me out!

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  1. Play by Tone

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    I remember someone had some experience with /13 and the Cornish gear.

    I'm really getting to know my strats lately (thanks to an EJ I picked up) and would like a smooth OD to go with my strats. David Gilmour's typical lead tone lately is ultimately where I would like to get close to. I know plenty of people chase that tone forever, I just want something similar. Its still going to sound like me ;)

    My Dual Drive is great for my '59 where I keep it set. So I want to get maybe an SS-2 for my strat.

    Any experience with the Cornish pedals and /13 would be greatly appreciated!
     
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    I had an SJT 10/20 , the little brother to the FTR 37 (do i have these model names right?). My fav OD pedal is a G2. Long story short, it sounded Ok, but i've heard much better "mates" for a G2. It basically likes a clean amp, and i guess i was always playing with a bit of dirt.
     
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    I have the 37 watter and the G2 works extremely well with this amp. Better than just about any OD I have tried. The P2 works well also but the G2 is the bomb.
     
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    Don't know much about cornish but I just got through helping fred at d13 with his joyride pedal and that thing goes from creamy smooth to slipnot....well not quite but very close

    :Devil
     
  5. KennyM

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    I'm using a SS-2, G-2 and a P-2 and they all sound great with my FTR37 although it's hard to make anything sound bad with this amp. Same goes for the Cornish pedals. As I've always prefered getting distortion and overdrive from my amps, these are the first pedals that seem to sound like part of the amp. The P-2 even sounds amazing straight into Amp Farm.

    Kenny M.
     
  6. Play by Tone

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    I set my clean channel up to get a bit of OD when I strum hard. So its not exactly clean...would I be disappointed with the SS-2 and my strat? Should I try the G-2 first? This is going to be primarily for my strat.
     
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    I've found that I get a lot of mileage from my EJ strat with a Keeley Java Boost into the clean side of the FTR. On the Java Boost I flip the switch to the "mid-boost" mode, the JB Tone control at 3:00 and the Level control maxed. I also have the pull-knob on the 37 pushed in.

    I just recently added a Keeley Comp (can you tell I like the Keeley stuff?) before the boost and get lot's o' sustain with the both knobs set about 11:00.

    -Rich
     
  8. Play by Tone

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    I need to take a picture of my strat + LP for you.

    I'm really diggin' the gilmouresque strat thing, and thus my interest in trying one of the Cornish pedals. Besides, I remember someone raving about them into an FTR-37, so I wanna try too :)
     
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    Anybody tried the SS3?
    I wonder how they differ from the SS2?]
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  10. Play by Tone

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    Yes, I do too.
     
  11. KennyM

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    "I set my clean channel up to get a bit of OD when I strum hard. So its not exactly clean...would I be disappointed with the SS-2 and my strat? Should I try the G-2 first? This is going to be primarily for my strat" - Play By Tone

    I kind of look at the Cornish trio in the amounts of OD or distortion available with the SS2 being the most mild and the P-2 having the most dist/ fuzz. As to whether you would be disapointed, that's a hard one to say as it's so subjective.

    I don't really like OD/Dist pedals. For example, I am completely baffled on why everyone thinks a "Tube Screamer" or one of the clones is even a marginally likable sound. I mostly use pedals while recording and as a definite "effect" for something different than how the amp sounds by itself. When I do use them live, I mostly just want a few different levels of OD that still sound like the amp I'm using, just turned up or turned down.

    That being said, I love these Cornish pedals. They sound like another channel of whatever amp they're plugged into. More importantly to me, they really feel good. And since the FTR37 is a great feeling amp that just makes you want to play, I think the D13/ Cornish combination is pretty unbeatable.

    Kenny M.
     
  12. Play by Tone

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    Kenny, I know where you're coming from.

    Whats great about, say, the Dual Drive, is that it its melds so well with the FTR, I never thought I would spend so much time on the clean channel with this amp...

    I just want to get close to Gilmour's Live 8 sound. If the SS-2 has the gain to do it, then I'm there. If it takes the G-2, I'm there. It sounds like the G-2 has seen more action with the FTR anyway, so I might go that route.

    What happened to the exchange rate :( $625 to buy one in the states...
     
  13. Ted Witcher

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    Live 8 was the G2 on both "Money" and "Comfortably Numb."
     
  14. Leonc

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    I think those expensive pedals are completely unnecessary with the '37. The gain on that amp is so damn good to start with, I just like a clean boost or maybe a wee bit of grit or midrange hump - you can get this from an EQ pedal or an AC or RC or BB Booster, something simple/inexpensive like that. Just my 2 cents.
     
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    Short answer - yes.

    I have the SS2, G2 and P2. They overlap somewhat, and with the G2 representing the middle, you'd be able to do the most.

    I think people would be least likely to come to a consensus about the SS2 because people have so many differnent opinions about what soft clipping should be. I think a lot of people would find the P2 to have too much gain. If I could have only one of these pedals, I'd be pissed off, but I'd pick the G2.

    The G2 is a really great pedal.
     
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    Steve, SS3 is just the SS2 with the bass rolloff now stock. Didn't know anyone even knew about them yet! My SS3/G2 duplex arrives Monday.

    Re: Gilmours tone, imo the SS2/3 is where its at for Dave's creamier leads, but keep in mind his active emg setup allows much more front end gain. An SS2/3 might not have enough gain, but definitely has the tone and feel. Eventually I'm going to have Pete put my Duplex and a TES in one of his boards, and when I do, I'm going to have him put his linear boost in front of it all so that I can get lots of gain, but similar tone out of the SS3.

    Play by Tone, I think your best best would be an SS3 with some kind of booster in front for the gainier stuff. If you like David's tone on COnf Numb on the meltdown DVD, I am pretty sure that is the SS2.
     
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    I should be getting my 37 within the next week or so, Fred said he was just waiting on the case to be made. How does a Klon work with the 37? Anyone???

    JoeP
     
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    Leon, is the 37 capable of getting close to Gilmour's tone?
     
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    Man, you have got to try the NG-2! I think i like it as much as the G2.
     
  20. Play by Tone

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    Ah, I was decided on the G-2 before your post.

    I'll probably be using an EJ strat mostly, with a 62' strat occasionally.

    What I wanna know is if the G-2 turned down does the SS2/3 thing well.
     

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