Do Mesas just not clean up with volume changes?

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  1. la noise

    la noise Member

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    Mark-series Mesas are NOT the best amps
    Mesa has designed and built. :nono

    Shhhhh.... don't tell anyone, ok? It's a
    secret. ;)
     
  2. Waxhead

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    on channel 1 clean & crunch voices yes and so does the Lonestar, Transatlantic, F50, F30, Mark 5, Mark 4 and lots of other Mesa's.
    Channel 2 on many of them also clean up well :)
     
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  3. stratotastic

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    Depends on the amp and the channel.
     
  4. Blanket Jackson

    Blanket Jackson ¿Qué Hiciste? Silver Supporting Member

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    Ideally if you do not want to channel switch Mesas need a pedal or two to supplement the clean channel to get where you want to go. I always found the earlier models got the clean down right, and the later models got the gain down right, but very few models got both right in the same package. The Lonestar series seemed to be the best in that department that I tried / owned.
     
  5. caspa

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    Oh man - this looks to be the answer! I feel pretty dumb for not trying this before.

    It seems as though Mark V:25s are pretty sensitive to loading as you have said... I'm getting great cleanup even on channel two by leaving my Carbon Copy on with the mix at zero.

    I recently seriously downsized my pedalboard, and nothing on there currently has a buffer that's always in the circuit. Looks like I need to look into a dedicated one.

    Edit: The great mystery is solved. Threw a old SD-1 on the board in place of my boutique drive and am getting 1000x better cleanup than plugging straight in.
     
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    Yes a buffer totally eliminates loading and you should get good results. Glad your making some headway.
     
  10. Saint Luminus

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    My Mesa Express 25 does clean up nicely. A lot better than I expected. Here is a video I did recently where I started with a clean tone and turned my guitar volume up to get a bit of color and distortion a la David Gilmour.

     
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    my lonestar special cleans up with my volume control nicely
     
  12. Waxhead

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    Right - so the OPs issue was solved in June.
    Was no issue with the Mark V 25 at all - for some reason he just didn't have buffered pedal on his board pre amp
     
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    I'd have to disagree with you. To me they are simply the best amps Boogie has made, if you don't play braindead metal. If you do, go Rectum Finder.
     
  14. Unexplainedbacon

    Unexplainedbacon Supporting Member

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    Strictly speaking any amp will clean up when you back the guitar volume down, it just may not be pleasing.

    Modern mode on my recto's, the way I EQ them for high gain, doesn't sound amazing with the volume rolled back IMO

    Raw and Vintage however do, and channel 1&2 on my roadster in the tweed or Brit modes sound amazing rolled back.
     
  15. Scooter

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    Yep, I just had this exact same experience. Have had many amps but this is my first Mesa. I'm only using a couple of pedals now and then on the clean channel. When using the dirty channel it wasn't cleaning up very well compared to other amps I've owned. Slapped a buffer in the chain and it made a big difference.
     
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    Tell that to Walter Trout
     

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