Do Silicon Fuzz pedals have problems with buffers before them?

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  1. dorfmeister

    dorfmeister Member

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    I know with a germanium fuzz it should be first in line in your chain, but I am wondering if the same tends to hold true for silicon fuzzes.

    I don't yet have a fuzz but have a Red Witch Fuzz God II (silicon) on the way.
     
  2. LowWatt

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    They can. With a twitchy pedal like the Fuzz God, I imagine it is like a fuzz factory where to get the most out of its crazy range of tones, you need it directly interacting with your guitars controls.
     
  3. Angle Loss

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    It has nothing to do with whether it is silicon or germanium and everything to do with how the circuit was designed. Both silicon and germ Fuzz Faces/Tonebenders are bothered by buffers, but a Big Muff is not. I don't know about the Red Witch circuit, but the material of the transistor nor the fact that a pedal is "fuzz" makes it necessarily susceptible to buffer problems.
     
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    I always hear this, but I have found that every muff I've tried (Mayo, MJM, Hoof, Green Russian, LBM, BYOC) the only one that didn't get a tiny bit rubbery sounding after a buffer was the Green Russian. It is a slight difference, but it is there. (NOTE : You would never hear it in a band situation though)
     
  5. Andre357

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    a lovepedal 200lb sounds great before of after buffers.......

    I like it better after a good buffer actually it increases the overall output for some reason.
     
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    Yeah, I've noticed significant differences with muff pedals after buffers. Not as evident as with fuzz circuits but definitely there.
     
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    I think the issue is WAY over-blown... the Big Cheese is a fuzzface with an opamp buffer driving it and no one complains. Also, a buffer mod is recommended for a wah pedal if it is giving trouble driving a fuzzface after it.

    It all depends on your total rig, and how you like your pedals to sound. I might be okay with it, and it might sound like poo with someone else's guitar/amp/ears. Use it if you like it! :)

    regards, Jack
     
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  8. StompBoxBlues

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    Angel Loss nailed it.

    Fact is I have lots of either kind of fuzz that work with some, all, or none of my wahs when I place fuzz after.

    It can be fixed with a wah buffer, that for one FOxrox sells called a wah retrofit, IF you have a problem and want to run the fuzz after wah.

    It's not necessarily the fuzz either...can be the wah. The Fuzz Factory with my crybaby, there was no WAH there when I wahed, into fuzz.
    Other fuzzes it was only lessened. After installing the retrofit in the wah (and thinking about this, if there were room, I am thinking maybe the retrofit could be installed in the input of the fuzz just as well) I got more than enough wah back.
     
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    What makes the Fuzz Face such a sensitive/twitchy pedal is the impedance. Germanium Transistors just intensify it - IMHO.
     

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