Do You Experience Malignant Optimism?

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  1. Mngwa

    Mngwa Member

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    I can certainly relate.
     
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    Mojo sent (sort of kidding, but sort of not kidding).
     
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    pickaguitar 2011 TGP Silver Medalist Silver Supporting Member

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    I'm too loyal and it doesn't jive well in today's corporate environment. To them...I'm only a number.


    Being overly optimistic keeps me happier in the long term imo
     
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    Your post and mine together are the crux of Albert Camus' "The Myth of Sisyphus".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absurdism

    My answer to your question is "Why not?" I'm not really trying to argue with people's need to find meaning in life. It seems to be an innate tendency in us. I guess I sometimes wonder why does a person's life need to have a special meaning in order for it to be worth living. It just IS worth living. In a million years it won't matter either way. I'm not saying I totally buy into the whole Absurdist philosophy but sometimes it seems as though people put a lot a pressure on themselves and cause themselves anxiety by placing TOO much emphasis on whether they have lived a meaningful life, almost a need to justify their existence.

    Most of the time I think it's best when I keep these thoughts to myself. :)
     
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    Same with me (people), mostly because the relationship means so much to me . especially relatives; even though one of my brothers hasn't spoken to me in years, when i think of him, i think today might be the day he gives me a call.
    And @Chris Scott 's comment about his wife pegs my situation; she's the eternal optimist for the lost cause turn-around but me, it's in the sig (and Murphy's Law).
     
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    Interesting.

    In my youth, I used to be the happy go lucky optimist. Always seeing the idealistic potential. Over time and many disappointments, I learned and using experience, became skeptical and more pessimistic of positive outcomes. Now, when something good happens, better than expected, I raise an eyebrow and move on. I don't experience the joy of 40-some years ago. Grumpy old man? Maybe... or just seasoned with experience and lower, more realistic expectations. More likely.
     
  7. Chris Scott

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    This is a damn fine description of my lovely wife...it may at first glance appear that she's just always blindly "positive", but a closer look reveals a fair amount of calculation that precedes most any decision she makes, especially regarding her involvement with other humans.
     
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    You reminded me that I once observed years ago that many of my friends who had been the most optimistic in their youth ended up being the most cynical later on.
     
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    Plus 1!

    Also, start your own country.

     
  10. CheckSix

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    O'Toole's Corollary to Murphy's Law:

    Murphy was an optimist.
     
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    Well, living is a lot of work for most people, and I suspect that if there is no sense of purpose or meaning, there is no motivation to do the work necessary to survive. That sense of purpose or meaning can be as basic as the instinct to survive and procreate. I think this is a general biological principle.

    I agree with you, though, that many people seem to put too much emphasis on attaching deep meaning to everything that happens in their lives, as if everything must be unfolding according to some grand plan. As you've said, that kind of delusional thinking causes lots of unnecessary disappointment and frustration.
     
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    I've been called "sardonic" but everyone has the opportunity to prove me wrong.
     
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    HeyMrTeleMan Colonel of Truth Gold Supporting Member

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    I like to think of it as terminal optimism...
     

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