Discussion in 'Guitars in General' started by Patch, Jul 28, 2006.
What kind of improvement?
As it turns out I either need one or have to replace them all.Anyone got a nylon saddle or two?
Sorry, don't have one, but I think they sound great, and they won't let your strings break over the saddle, which is a plus.
nylon saddles suck imo, i change them out for nickle covered brass ones.
What brand do you prefer?
I like the nylon saddles for a certain legit 335/archtop tone...what I'd like to try is the bone saddles that were used for a short time...
Nylon saddles suck and everyone changed them out back in the day...
Nylon=wear out quickly
My '70 Deluxe GT came stock with one. Has a regular abr now, but I have a mint nylon saddle bridge stashed if I ever need it back to stock.
ES350 -- "Talk to me!" I've never heard of bone saddles available for Gibson Tune-O-Matic (TOM) bridges.
I've seen them on a Tal Farlow and a Byrdland...both early/mid 60's. In one of his Gibson books, Duchossoir talks about them. I guess you can drill and tap it; wouldn't be all that hard to make some.
BTW---know anyplace I could get ebony or rosewood barrel saddles for a Tele? I may have to make some up one of these days...
If you want to put tone sucking plastic/nylon saddles on your Gibson, Allparts sells them.
Sure thing; I don't mind sounding like BB/Freddie/Tal/Herb/Grady/Hank Garland.
IIRC Clapton's 335 had/has the nylon saddles. Not exactly my idea of a tone-less guitar.
here's an idea: use brass saddles on the plain strings and something brighter sounding (nickel, aluminium, stainless steel, titanum) on the wound strings. this should contribute to a clear bass without the harsh hi end
What about this?:
I have those Graphtechs installed in a few TOM's and switch them out if I want a little mellower tone and a softer attack---they work great on maple body Gibson or Epi archtops to calm them down.
I have an 81 ES347 that when I got it, had the Graphtechs installed on it. I did not like them. They sounded much like the old nylon to me. I am much happier with the originals back on it. Luckily the former owner kept the originals, so it was easy to switch back.
I'd be interested to hear the Tusk sadddles. I wonder how they "mate" tonally with a tune-a-matic bridge? A bone nut sounds pretty good to me .... maybe the Tusk saddles do too.
I think the nylon saddles soften up the attack and firmness a bit. I don't know that they totally suck, but I most definitely prefer metal saddles, even for jazz stuff, though I agree w/ Old Tele Man that nylon saddles are fine when playing jazz. I agree also with Golden Boy that Clapton's ES-335 sounded GREAT, but we all gotta remember HOW LOUD he was playing. Not that hard to sound great at high volume, IMHO.(GRIN)
You can 'buy back' a lot of whatever tone is soaked up by nylon saddles with some good 'ol volume, in my experience.
I recently replaced the whole bridge on my '67 335 because I didn't want to put any more wear on the original saddles, and didn't want to take the saddles off the bridge to replace them. I put a standard Gibson replacement bridge on there (metal saddles), and was suprised at how much snappier the tone was once I did.
I have learned that the Gibson nylon saddles are not being offered from Gibson because they are on the John Lennon '65 Epi Casino. The 65 Casino (non-Lennon) has metal saddles and Gibson doesn't want people putting nylon saddles onto the korean or Japan Casinos and selling them as Lennon models. I have the '65 Casino RI but their face is 5 ply maple instead of the maple/birch/maple/birch/maple, like the original '65s. Because of this, the RI is brighter. So... my only choice to get closer to the "sound" of the original is to use the allparts nylon saddles in hopes of mellowing the tone.
Seems to me that anyone wanting nylon shouldn't have to go without because someone may get tricked into buying a cheaper model disguised as a "Lennon".