Do you stack OD+OD / OD+Boost / OD+Dist?

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  1. jhumber

    jhumber Member

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    When stacking pedals to get a lead tone, which type of pedals do you typically stack together?

    Here's the reason for the question....

    I currently run an Xotic BB as my main dirty rhythm tone. To get a slight boost I'll stack it with an RC, and to get a bigger boost I'll stack it with an AC.

    In order to get a higher gain tone, I'm considering getting a 'distortion' pedal, and stacking that with the BB for higher gain lead tones. Does anyone do similar (ie. stacking an OD with a distortion)? Or do ODs generally stack better with other ODs?
     
  2. Sniper-V

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    There are no rules...
    I try everything and anything.
    You just might find a killer recipe.

    Certain pedals stack better than others no matter what they are.

    Last combo that worked great for me was running an LDO and an Mo'D stacked. I voice the LDO brighter for the cut and dynamics and the Mo'D for the thickness and bottom. Both set to from low to medium gain settings. I get literally endless sustaining leads. Sounds killer!
     
  3. Grap

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    What works for me is:

    Compression, Distortion or Fuzz, Low gain OD, Higher Gain OD

    Like the man said though, experiment and find out what works for you.
     
  4. GuitarsFromMars

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    Barber Tone Press>TS-9/808>Zendrive...the best so far in 36 years of playing,gigging,recording....
     
  5. 89strat

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    I've been using a jekyll and Hyde which I run the hyde sound for rythm sounds then kick on the jekyll side for leads. So basically, it's like sticking a tubescreamer after a Rat, two pedals that you would think were made for eachother no matter how they stack.

    When I'm not using the jekyll and Hyde, I usually use a tube screamer and a Rat, but I'm really digging the J&H thing. When the overdrive is after the distortion, it really seems to take over the whole tone, but with the J&H, it sort of creates something together. Better sustain and less muddiness. With some delay it gets frightening close to Eric Johnson. By the way, I'm going into a clean deluxe reverb.

    Basically, my heavier overdrive/distortion is my main rythm, then a light overdrive or boost after it for a solo with some added volume and midrange. I also have a tone press in front of the distortion when I need a bit more. I run it this way more out of necessity as a I play in a two guitar band where we both share leads.
     
  6. giggedy

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    zen - low gain
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    kot - dist on red, od on yellow
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    Tim - low gain
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    comp
     
  7. gregory49

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    My main Blues Lead sound right now is Honeybee>LDO>Landgraff CleanBoost.
     
  8. steveb

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    If you want more gain, then try putting something in front the of the BB to drive the input a bit harder. It can be anything from another distortion/OD pedal to a compressor. Keep the output volume of that pedal somewhat high in order to drive the BB more.
    Then, you can put another OD/boost/compressor pedal after the BB set relatively clean, but with the output high. That would be your solo boost.

    No rules, just suggestions.

    Steve
     
  9. Lance

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    Question for you guys using two drives & a compressor. Don't you get tons of noise running these three things together? Man, I was going through this...Strat with stacked buckers > Boss SD-1 > Maxon SD-1 > Analogman mini bi-comp (Ross side) > Boss DD-3 > 76 Twin Reverb, and it made so much noise I could barely stand it. Do any of you use any kind of noise suppression?
     
  10. Uma Floresta

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    It's hard to predict what pedal will stack well with what.
     
  11. golddillion

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    For the last year I've been working on the whole pedal thing. I've gigged with multi-channel, midi switching rigs for the last 20 years. I bought a Ceriatone 50 watt plexi clone that is a great pedal platform and have been trying many od and distortion boxes over the last year to get something that I like better than my current rig.

    I really like the Crunch Box for modded Marshall like high gain leads, and got an OCD ver3 (that I made one mod to) a couple weeks ago that I absolutely love for a hard rock rhythm sound. I built a loop switcher to toggle between these two boxes for my lead and rhythm sounds (with a bypass for clean). Yesterday I was messing around with a Franklin modded Boss SD-1 in front of the OCD. What a fantastic, full bodied, singing lead tone! I was floored. Last night I changed my switcher to accomodate this set up, and can't wait to gig with it.

    Getting a good volume boost and a gain boost in one shot depends on the pedals. I guess the OCD with the gain at 11:00 has enough headroom that hitting with the Boss gives me all the volume boost I need, with plenty to spare, as well as a gain boost for sing and sustain. Pedals are fun.
     
  12. thintele

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    Try moving your compressor to the front of your chain and see if that helps. Thats where I run mine and the noise is minimal.
     
  13. maggles

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    Lately I have been running a Mojodrive into my BB Preamp. Both set to pretty low gain. I get a nice sustainy Dumble type tone this way. Nice.

    Andy
     
  14. giggedy

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    I don't find much noise if I'm on pickup selection 2 or 4. It's actually a little different with my guitar because of the humbucker, but on a regular strat, that's where the least noisy settings are. I don't really have much down time if I'm using overdrive, I sustain notes a lot, otherwise I've got the volume pedal to stop the noise.
     
  15. Lance

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    Thanks, I will give that a shot. I just got that compressor, so I didn't even try moving it around here & there.
     
  16. Brett Valentine

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    I like having a clean boost and a very open O/D pedal in front of the BB. You could also use a slightly more "fuzzy" pedal as well, but because the BB is a bit compressed, you would probably do better with a very open, dynamic, uncompressed pedal that is very quiet. I use the Silver Kiss and a Gain Stage Blue on one board, and when it's on my other board, I run an AC Boost and a Blues Boy Deluxe in front of it.

    Because the BB has some element of the clean tone mixed in, just overdriving the original signal will add something to the sound. A clean boost is a little bit more subtle.

    Also, I think it works better if the BB's gain isn't dimed (I keep mine at 12:00 - so it still gives you somewhere to go and it cuts down on the noise floor).

    One other thing. I also run it in front of a Tube Zone (set to medium gain), and it really pushes the TZ into great sounding lead sustain which is a little bit warmer but still quiet.
     
  17. KBN

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    I have a lot of options. I run a Demeter Fat Control, Diamond J-Drive mk3 (has a separate boost that runs into the overdrive), Emma Reezafratzits, and a Maxon Eq. I run a mid boost or a clean boost into the J-Drive, or any of those 3 into the Reeza. I can run the eq as a boost after the overdrives as well if I want. I don't have any real formula. Depends on the song.
     

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