Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by SunnyRollins, Feb 18, 2008.
It's interesting to find out cause maybe ALL od's with mid are TS's, plain and simple...
No, not at all!
The BJF Emerald Green Dist. Machine, for one, has a nice mid push to it, and sounds, feels, behaves, nothing like a TS. It is a totally different type of pedal in circuit and sound. In fact many of BJ's pedals have some extra mid content and lots of color, yet are about as far from a TS as a dirt pedal can be.
The Blackstone has a real strong marshall-like mid push as well, and is also nothing like a TS in structure, function, and sound.
Some of the Menatone pedals have thick mids (with controls) and are also non-op amp FET based designs and really not TS-like at all.
Having said that, many, many pedals are similar to Screamers, but you don't have to have a TS to get midrange.
It's interesting what you say because here in my country (Chile, South America) there's little if ANY boutique effect stores so I can't try most of the pedals discussed here before taking the plunge so any input is helpful.:BEER
Besides that, it's really commonplace to read about this topic so i wondered about that, cause after all the reading and searching i've done here i couldn't find any example.
Barber LTD-SR and Silver, the farthest thing(s) from a TS.
Very open sounding.
Tell me 'bout it... Same thing over here, except for Fulltone, boutique pedals are virtually unavailable.
If you want a low- to mid-gain OD pedals that is widely available (in your part of the world, too, I assume), and does not soud like a TubeScreamer, try the Marshall Bluesbreaker II. It's also true bypass (supposedly), and does not cost a lot, either.
BJF Honey Bee
Yep - Silver Kiss and Honey Bee, and I'll throw in a Skreddy Screw Driver too.
This is a discussion near and dear to my tonal heart
Is it the Sound or the Circuit that denotes the pedal ?
You could easily make a pedal that sounded like a tube screamer with similar EQ and distortion and compression but do it with a heavily modified circuit that was nothing like a TS circuit.....
is it a tube screamer if it sounds like a tube screamer irregaurdless of what parts are inside ?
Well it's not just the sound but the feel. Opamps, FETs and disrete transistors all have a different kind of response and their own tonal characteristics.
I'm guessing it would be impossible to make something sound/play like the Honey Bee starting from the TS architecture for example... and probably visa versa.
cool overdrive pedal shootout on youtube...good comparisons between TS and some of the newer sounding od's...
This the one I like, original TS-808 vs Clay Jones vs Landgraff:
yes Donner, sound and feel. What's inside isn't important (to the player at least).
Its just that usually, if its a TS-circuit, the end result is - it sounds & feels like a TS.
So I suppose, that's a pretty normal way of guessing how a pedal will function/feel/sound, even though TS-variants do vary in feel/sound.