Done flipping pedals thanks to fees and sales tax.

Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by cra1987, Sep 22, 2019.

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  1. cra1987

    cra1987 Member

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    Now don’t get me wrong, we always should’ve been charged sales tax on the internet. But this new court decision has ended my Reverb shopping indefinitely. It’s just not worth it.

    There’s always been fees, but now if I want to flip a pedal for a different one, I need to net way too much extra to make it worth it. I just sold a chorus pedal for $160, bought a different one for $145, and ended up losing almost $30.

    Bye for now, GAS!
     
  2. Ps28

    Ps28 Member

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    You're damn right
     
  3. prsjcm

    prsjcm Member

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    I am in a similar place. Thankfully though, I have everything that I want. So it's all about small stuff. Plus, used prices are kind of idiotic right now anyway.

    I sold off all of the stuff I wasn't using and/or no longer wanted. It feels good to thin the herd.
     
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    Maybe somebody can explain this, but if we're buying something used, why should we pay taxes on it since the taxes were already paid when the unit was purchased new?
     
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    income tax, payroll tax, sales tax... all from the same pie.
     
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    Sales taxes consumption taxes, so whether the item is new or used doesn’t matter.

    Certain items are exempt from these consumption taxes, and if you are a wholesaler you typically don’t have to pay sales taxes to avoid double taxation, but items are taxed regardless of whether they are used or new.
     
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    cbm Silver Supporting Member

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    It's not so much that the thing is taxed as the transaction is taxed. You would expect to pay taxes if you bought a used car, right?
     
  8. Machew

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    I only buy stuff I want to keep. I've never been a flipper.
     
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    tonedover Supporting Member

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    there will always be a “price” for trying out pedals

    gone is the wild west of netting even or even profiting when flipping
     
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    Thank goodness!
    Maybe used gear will go back to being used gear.
     
  11. DiPa

    DiPa Constant GAS Silver Supporting Member

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    Lot of states are still tax free, perhaps they will catch up, you need to check which state the buyer is at...
     
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    Oh no... less flippers.

    The humanity...

    :rolleyes:
     
  13. oansun

    oansun Supporting Member

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    No, we should not be charged sales tax. In any capacity
     
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    Congratulations, now you have more time to play.

    Taxes is just the upkeep of society.
     
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    Please note that while a discussion on Tax itself is OK, once the topic of “Government” or “Rulers” is brought into the conversation that it then becomes Political. A good example to apply here would be how TGP handles the topic of guns.

    Thank you.
     
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    TGP classified deals between trusted members is and continues to be one of the better ways of flipping equipment IMO
     
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    I don't look at it that way. I think of a slight loss as a rental fee for using the pedal and finding out for yourself how it sounds.
     
  18. fenderjapan

    fenderjapan World Heavyweight Champion Silver Supporting Member

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    I have an $80 rule when it comes to anything larger than a baseball card. If I can't sell it for $80 or more it isn't worth it to photograph/pack/ship priority mail/pay fees. (The $80 includes shipping)
    So if anyone wants to see a small collection of cool cheap pedals I'm not using, come on over.
     
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    cosmic_ape Supporting Member

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    We had a good run, boys. What was it, twenty years or better of tax free internet transactions?

    Yeah, a good run it was.
     
  20. sheikyerbouti

    sheikyerbouti Supporting Member

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    F'n tax is BS. Isn't that why we left England?

    I think its going to hurt anyone selling gear, especially anything high end. It's already put a damper on my buying.
     
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