Discussion in 'The Sound Hound Lounge' started by mikeratan00, Jul 10, 2019.
That's a tough one.
Portnoy was more than half the band back in the day. He was the voice and personality of the band.
But Mangini is an awesome drummer and seems like a genuinely nice guy. Don't want to hate on him - it wasn't his fault Portnoy left.
Not going to vote.
Mangini is a technical freak. Not that Portnoy was left wanting.
I tend to like the earlier stuff from all of my favorite bands. Not going to hold that against Mangini.
Went with Portnoy for Dream Theater, I think Mangini is a great drummer but haven't really cared much for his work in Dream Theater. Thought he was great on Extreme's Waiting for the Punchline and frankly feel he is a bit wasted in DT. Obviously a great gig for him but feel like he plays too technical and with less groove and feel than he is capable of.
I love Mangini but I wanted Marco Minneman to win out.
Would have been the bold, risky choice.
I appreciate DT intensely along a few years and then take a loooong break.
Currently I'm in one of those breaks, which started around MP's departure. Because of that, I can't comment about DT's music with MM.
I love a lot of songs and albums that wouldn't be the same - or even have come to exist - without MP.
OTOH, his increasing trend towards cookie-monster-vocals type of music was going too far in the last albums with him (I assume he was the one - or at least the main person - pushing this tendency based on him coming to sing more and more in each new album). But I have to remark - in spite of loving his playing - that Petrucci's inclination to follow this path also contributed to the current break.
Mangini is a hell of musician, simply incredibly. But they had magic when Portnoy was in the band.
I liked Minneman, but....he just did not fit. Same with Lang, that guy has a crushing groove, but they don't need that, they need a super computer of drums, and they picked the right guy.
I don't like MM much. He's crazy good, but he just sounds like a freaking robot.
There soooo much more heart and passion in Portnoy's drumming to my ears.
I disagree: MMin fitted very well, but I suspect they'd already made up their mind to go with Mangini by then.
For me: Portnoy, all the way. Having said that, the new album is great.
Minnerman plays with too much joy to be in Dream Theater. They take themselves too seriously. Serious faces for serious music. lol
Exactly. And...."stop that grooving, we need precision!"
Yeah, Marco Minneman can't play precise
I liked DT a lot. It's a shame they broke up after Scenes From a Memory.
How do you not like'em both?
They are both incredible drummers. No vote here.
Dream Theater is everything people accused Rush of being (but weren't in reality).
Marco Minneman is Bill Bruford on steroids. I love both of them.
Portnoy is an example of how important a drummer is to both the song and the process of writing it. Dream Theater never takes off without Portnoy. His drumming on Images and Words + Awake was brilliant from both a creative and technical standpoint.
Mangini is a fine studio type drummer but he has no originality or soul. He's just very technically bland.
Yeah, you are totally getting my point, which was supposed to be light hearted.