Discussion in 'The Sound Hound Lounge' started by chrisgraff, Dec 15, 2009.
= Johnny B. Goode
I bet that ole miser Chuck Berry never gives Gonzo credit for ripping off his Zeppelin drum tracks...
You mean Maybelline:
That intro belongs to another song, but it's not Johnny B Goode, I'll try to find it...
EDIT: Suproman beat me too it.
I can hear that .
you guys are NOT saying that Zep took old blues and called it their own without copyrighting it... are ya?
There's a whole site, Theivingmagpies.com or something that has a bunch of Zep tunes, and the original songs they ahem "borrowed" from, stuff like "I'm Confused" "Gallis Pole" "Babe I'm gonna leave you" etc. and how they came to "aquire" the ideas.
The question is, if a drummer plays Bonzo's intro with no countoff, will you & your bass player actually come in at the right time? Ha.
In Zep's "Rock'n'Roll" the drum intro is more of a tribute and direct reference to early RnR, it's the whole obvious point of the song.
Exactly! Its a tribute. Only Chuck Berry would say someone is ripping his stuff off.
The Rock and Roll intro is very similar to the You Keep a Knockin' intro that Earl Palmer played for Little Richard. Thats the one right there.....
Everyone knows LZ "borrowed" from many many others. But john was able to take it and redo it like no other. It was pointless to go on without him. Thankfully Jimmy and Robert could see that.
Nice find, chrisgraff!
Actually, I think it sounds a bit closer to this version of Carol (at 2:05):
You never had a conversation with Bo Diddly. ! He was ALWAYS ranting about that.
Also the drum beat for "Lust for Life" was stolen from "You Can't Hurry Love". Damn music thieves!!!
Exactly, since obviously they made no attempt to obscure it. My Dad was a huge Little Richard fan and I got the reference right away.
Success breeds contempt. Supro, you ever read the Zep book "Heaven and Hell"? There's a great chapter written by Jimmy Guterman that goes into great detail about how Zep borrowed stuff and completely made it their own. Highly recommended.
You're not saying the old blues guys themselves didn't do this all the time and the only difference was Zep made a LOT of money from it and that was really the bone of contention?
AFAIK, everytime Zep was called on this they did the right thing and paid up.