Dual delay, Timeline vs Timefactor

[dmczern]

Please splain me

A quick answer, I'll delete as soon as it's posted

Thanks

 

[jb4674]

Quickest and simplest answer...

The TimeLine cannot do dual delay in every patch, whereas the TimeFactor can.

I hope this helps.

P.S.: Don't delete the thread.

 

[jrf]

Can you elaborate on that? I currently own 2 DD20s, and I appreciate the independence of the 2 delays.

 

[dmczern]

Quickest and simplest answer...

The TimeLine cannot do dual delay in every patch, whereas the TimeFactor can.

I hope this helps.

P.S.: Don't delete the thread.

Yes it helps. thanks!

and Ok, I won't delete (I'm just fairly sure it's been covered elsewhere)

 

[dmczern]

Bumping cuz jb4674 asked me not to delete

 

[Smgbad]

Timeline > Timefactor in every way IMHO (except maybe price). I've owned both several times and say this as an absolute fact. The TF also sounds very artificial to me and has a cheaply made plastic feel to it. In fact I think the new Flashback X4 will be > TF as well at an AWESOME pricepoint. Due out in Oct.

Ok. Now lets wait for all the TF users who simply can't afford a TL or won't try one to chime in... They always do.



Again.. this is just, like, my opinion, man...

 

[mmcm4]

Timeline > Timefactor in every way IMHO (except maybe price). I've owned both several times and say this as an absolute fact. The TF also sounds very artificial to me and has a cheaply made plastic feel to it. In fact I think the new Flashback X4 will be > TF as well at an AWESOME pricepoint. Due out in Oct.

Ok. Now lets wait for all the TF users who simply can't afford a TL or won't try one to chime in... They always do.



Again.. this is just, like, my opinion, man...

I currently own both. And I would disagree with you about the Timefactor feeling cheap or sounding artificial. It's built like a tank. The Timefactor has a much better digital delay than the Timeline. The repeats are clear and pristine. If you're having trouble with it sounding artificial, just adjust the filter knob to make the repeats darker.

 

[jb4674]

I currently own both. And I would disagree with you about the Timefactor feeling cheap or sounding artificial. It's built like a tank. The Timefactor has a much better digital delay than the Timeline. The repeats are clear and pristine. If you're having trouble with it sounding artificial, just adjust the filter knob to make the repeats darker.

I agree, and I own both as well. The TimeLine has a analog-ish sound to it whereas the TimeFactor will do pristine and true digital delays without surprises.

 

[BadMelonFarmer]

Owned both and agree that the TimeFactor is built like a tank... The actual case is metal... There is the plastic screen with writing on the top... But the case is not plastic. And sound wise there are things in both that are great, hey are both tools and can both sound great. ... for me the TimeFactor is my preferred total package... But that's just my opinion and maybe because I have owned and loved it for years. I prefer the dTape algorithm to the tape algorithm on the TimeFactor, but there are a lot of things I prefer on the TimeFactor...interface, BandDelays, Digital Delays, dual delays to name a few things... As always IMO and YMMV.

Back o the original topic....as others have said the dual delays on the TimeFactor are available in all the algorithms... Digital, Vintage, Tape, BandDelay etc, whereas on the TimeLine it is only available on the Dual Delay algorithm .... So you can not have dTape with dual delays.

 

[Smgbad]

As I said... just my opinion after giving both pedals multiple chances on my board and in the studio. Timeline just does it much much better for me. Repeats are more natural, for one. You also cannot create the lush 'soundscape' type effects with TF.

 

[jb4674]

As I said... just my opinion after giving both pedals multiple chances on my board and in the studio. Timeline just does it much much better for me. Repeats are more natural, for one. You also cannot create the lush 'soundscape' type effects with TF.

Please define what a "lush soundscape" to you is. The TimeFactor is completely capable of creating lush sounds if you need them.

 

[direct]

I haven't used a Timeline before. I can't afford it and I've never seen anyone with one to even hear it live. I will say, hearing a friend play his Timefactor through my amp caused me to find a buyer for my DD20 that day and I ordered a Timefactor as soon as I had the cash in my hand. I don't thing I'd ever need any better sounding delay, I'm sure they exist I'm just not sure you're really going to notice the difference and at the price point of a Timeline, I can't see the worth in buying one. That's just me. Others may feel differently. The interface on the Timefactor is really easy to use. I've heard the Timeline isn't quite so smooth.

 

[Andre357]

I own a Timeline and a Timefactor

One thing about the dual delay on the Timefactor....you can very lush chorus and modulated delay sounds because of the dual delay format....

You can get those kind of chorus sounds where you cant hear the up and down of the " sine " ( not sure if thats the right term ). Like the chorus sound Allen Holdworth gets on his clean chord work.

You just hear lush, thickening chorus. With the filter knob you can get it to sound very analogish as well.

I've been gigging with the timeline. But I miss being able to get that really cool modulation..

Both great delays.

 

[Andre357]

As I said... just my opinion after giving both pedals multiple chances on my board and in the studio. Timeline just does it much much better for me. Repeats are more natural, for one. You also cannot create the lush 'soundscape' type effects with TF.

Owning both I completely disagree with this ( IMHO of course )

With proper use of the filter knobs and modulation controls and setting on both the A & B delay times....the timefactor creates some of the lushest sounscapes that can be had....

And they can be as pristine or dark and murky as wanted ( with the filter knob )...

That being said the Timeline creates fantastic soundscapes as well ( and it's the one I'm currently using more of ).

Both great delays.

 

[Blix]

The Timeline is very limited when it comes to dual delay, the TimeFactor is not.

 

[dmczern]

Thanks guys. You most definitely answered my question regarding the dual delay function on both units. Should I delete this thread before the arguing starts ? ;-)

For you guys that own both, does anyone actually use them together??

Would love to hear some clips!

Thanks!

 

[john.pratt1321]

No, don't delete. I believe that the Timefactor is for you if you want endless flexibility and a VERY GOOD sounding delay. The Timeline is for you if you want a bit less flexibility, but unparalleled delay quality. Nothing sounds like a Timeline, but nothing works like a Timefactor.

 

[Smgbad]

Here's what ya do. Get a Timeline. Try out every mode and the looper. Sell it. Use the money to buy a Timefactor. Do the same. Then you will be familiar and not have to rely on or deal with conflicting reports from users of both pedals on an online forum. Apparently there are a lot of Timefactor users who swear by it. I am not one of them. But the only way you will ever know whats right for you is to try both thoroughly.

And hey, if you bought them used and end up choosing the TF you will have an extra $125 back in your pocket to buy another pedal. If you do choose the Timeline, do yourself a favor and also grab up a Disaster Area Amps Timeline MIDI controller. It gives a major boost to the looper's practicality and is FUN to play with.

 

[micjonga]

Or use both on your board as I do, and enjoy two of the most incredible delay tools you can have. The sky is the limit with both on my board. I can create pretty much any delay sound I want. I do love the dual delays in every algorithm on the Timefactor. THey both have pros and cons.

 

[dmczern]

This is what I'm planning on doing IF any of my gear EVER sells.