Where did that other thread go? I was going to enter this in that thread. Oh well, here it goes. What a trip! Just finished a mini Dumble clone shootout at Tags. The amps were roberts tworock Opal, Tags tworock emerald pro, and a glaswerks super overdrive. We put them into three different cabs. a 1/12 two rock sig with an old EV12l. a mesa 4/12. (not sure what speakers), and a Bruno 2/12 with G12H30s. This guy "Frankie" played the most, as he is a Ford freak, and knocks out Ford solos note for note with a pick/fingers attack. I think i can clear one thing up that I could never understand. Its the "straining" sound that i read so much about. The strain is just the attack, bloom, and decay of a note. The opal and glaswerks have what I would call normal amounts of each. You pick a note, it blooms almost instantly, then slowly decays. The e.pro is different. you pick a note, and it has a really slow bloom before it peaks,then starts a slow decay. It is different than other amps, and I can see how it could make you want to play fewer notes. The slow blooming sensation makes you want to hold notes longer. It makes the amp feel and sound different than the others. The Carol Ann I played at lark music seemed to have some of the same thing going on. Interesting. The opal is the most flexible of the 3, and if you like punch with your Dumble tones, this will do it. it had 2 modes, with one being smooth, and the other being rough and jagged. It was the loudest of the three amps (it seemed like 100 watts compared to the others 50), and like the glaswerks, it got loud right off of idle. both amps would benefit from a slower taper on the drive MV for my taste. the emerald pro you could turn up 25% before the volume was equal to other two amps almost right from the beginning of their rotation. Oddly, at 50%, all the amps were at a similar volume. (loud) The opals clean channel had the most gain, and it was darker than the other two, but had a nice mild bright switch that seemed to be voiced just right. With it on, and all of that punch, it reminded me of a really good twin reverb. With the gain maxed, you could get some authentic old school rock tones in this channel alone. This had my favorite cleans of the three, while tag liked the glaswerks slightly more. (he also keeps his clean tones sparkling, while I prefer more gain) Frankie liked even more than i do, and kept the gain almost dimed. With the smooth setting engaged, the Opal could be made to sound very similar to either the e.pro or glaswerks, although the bloom and decay was not like the e.pros. In the other setting, you could get anything from zeppelin to pearl jam or green day. amazing array of tones from just 2 channels. The glaswerks was very similar to the opal. the difference being that all of its settings were not as drastic. in other words, while the opal could go from dumble like tones to all out rock and roll, the glaswerks had very subtle changes of eq, and retained its basic voicing. It also had really nice cleans, a fair amount of gain, and many ways to shift the mids and treble. Each shift was minimal, but very musical. The overdrive tones were clear and articulate, and like the opal, could easily get ford and Carlton types of tones. I thought the reverb was better than the opals, but not as good as the e.pros. The od tone stack switch seemed to drop bottom end in the down position, and i liked all the switches set to the 'fat' settings. we changed to 6l6 tubes, then back to the stock ones, and all liked the stock tubes more. chewier with more overtones. (el34s I think) e.pro. the reverb was the best of the group. the cleans were really nice and fat with a tele or strat, but you had to cut back the mids a bit with humbuckers. of the 3 amps, it had the least amount of gain in the clean channel, but seemed to sound the best when you turned it up really loud. The cleans totally transformed once you had it cranked, and SRV tones were easily available. Tag played the beginning to Riviera paradise, and it sounded amazing with his Chapin strat. at lower volumes though, it was the flattest of the three. At loud volumes, it had a big, airy, breathing tone. Oddly,that means at loud volumes, it had my favorite cleans, but at low or mid volume, my least favorite. what a transformation. ok...trouble time. with Robert and Frankie playing, tag put on some clips of ford playing politician, worried life blues, the plunge, and Chevrolet. he would play a section on the stereo, and then have the guys mimic the lick with each amp. each one could get in the ball park, and I think they all sounded the closest into the mesa cab. The closest was Frankie with his pick and fingers style into the e pro sounded, and it sounded right on with the recording. All the amps could get close, but there are certain sections of solos tag would specifically pick out that highlighted that slow bloom fords amps have. It seems like the slower swell of the note rounds off the high end a bit, and as the note peaks, it sounds like a phase shift. the pro seems to do this really well for one reason or another. take into consideration tag is being really picky, but i do hear what he is talking about. It would have been nice to have a CA there, because as I said before, i heard the slower bloom in that too. The e.pro does seem to have something unique in that area. Now I can talk about my favorite amp of the day. The little white 1/12 cowtipper 22! I had the amp wide open, and it could keep up with the other 3 amps with no problem. it has a crunch that reminds me of a good JTM45, but back it down, and you get great fendery cleans. Tag has an ethos pedal, but he leant it to another member, so I played it with a fulldrive II. it sounded as good as any of the other three amps to me, and the clean tones and reverb were off the charts. He also has a Bruno 35 and 45, and i was going to plug into them when there was a knock on the door. I guess his neighbor did not appreciate the volume of the little 22 as much as I did. lol! I felt bad, as that put an end to the show. Thanks to tag for letting me attend, and for the Gatorade and corn chips. Maybe Robert will post his take on the gathering as well. Frankie needs to get a computer so he can get his playing on the web. He can cop anyone from ford to blackmore to trower. Not only tonally, but facial expressions and stage movements as well. Great entertainer as well as player! I will be dreaming of cows tonight i am certain.