"Dumble sound is just a bassman with a tubescreamer"

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  1. hogy

    hogy Supporting Member

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    I don't, for the life of me, understand it either. Being proud of being ignorant. Why is that a thing?

    The information is readily available. Read a schematic or two. If you can't, ask somebody who can.
     
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    Red House Silver Supporting Member

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    Since someone brought up SRV :D, check out this clip. That Dumble is absolutely HUGE! Are all SSS' that big?

    Also, his tone is all SRV, not 'Dumbley' despite plugged into the SSS. In other words, to my ears, he sounds just like he always has with all his Fenders.

    With that kind of tone, I can see myself buying an SSS. I think the tone is a nice contrast to the stereotypical smooth jazz clips which are typically played with Dumbles.

    BTW, he used a 4x12 loaded with EV's with his SSS.

     
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    TGP doesn’t have consensus on whether the standby switch is a necessary feature. Once we get that sorted, maybe these “schematics” can be considered.
     
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    drbob1 Silver Supporting Member

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    I've played a number of Dumbles, mostly in stores. My first experience was just after I got my Fuch Bandmaster mod in the late 90s. It was a 112 combo at Dave's . He plays red knob Twins out, has for many decades, he didn't really like the Dumble. I played it and thought my Fuchs sounded as good. At the time I had no idea that Dumble had built each amp for a specific player and this just wasn't "my" Dumble. I played the OD Deluxe at Carters and was underwhelmed. I played the 100w ODS they had at one time. The lead channel wasn't working. But a Teye Guitar into the clean channel just caught and held, any note or chord, anywhere on the fretboard. I loved that amp, but I didn't love it $110k! I've owned a Fuchs, a Carol Ann, and a Zendrive from Alf that I've plugged into BF amps...

    NONE of them have sounded like a Tubescreamer into a Fender. None have really sounded like each other, either. And Dumble has built way more types of amps than just the ODS style.
     
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    Man, if you didn't bust any TGP blood vessels with your post, I'd be kind of disappointed.
     
  6. Bluesful

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    Don't think so.

    He's been travelling with that amp for decades.
     
  7. skronker

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    Don't know if you know about Tone Talk on youtube but here Bruce talks about the SRV experience you posted about.
    1 hr. 16 min. mark

    Don't know how much of a gear head you are but Tone Talk is a cool channel.
    Check it out if you get a chance.
     
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    Mayer uses his Dumble with DeadCo. Sounds clean as a Two Rock.
     
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    Sweetfinger Silver Supporting Member

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    Haw, I have, and one thing that most definitely does NOT sound like it, is a TS in front of a Bassman.
     
  10. ProfRhino

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    no, don't have time for YT ...
    but I had one of the very first TS808s, small switch, box 'n all that - my dealer brought it home straight from Frankfurt in late spring of '79.
    what's in that video ?
    some kind of joke ?
    Rhino
     
  11. ProfRhino

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    to be fair, RP amps are very much their own thing, not Dumble clones at all.
    They do / did a single true D-style, the RPHD 100, which indeed was an ODS 100 circuit, never seen one in the wild.
    depending on model, the other RP circuits occasionally include an idea from the Dumble textbook (e.g. an LNFB option in certain preamps), but that's about as far as it goes.
    my Ceriatone ODS on the other hand does the Dumble thing really well, agreed, but neither my ADD nor Magica are even remotely attempting to go there ... :dunno
    just saying,
    Rhino
     
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    Zendrive into basically any clean channel of a tube amp.
     
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    A ts pedal cuts all the bass and low mids. A Dumble sounds nothing like it. A ts to me is a refined treble booster.
     
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    Well, Robben Ford said Dumble was inspired by him playing a fender and tube screamer. Your post pretty much ridiculed mine when I posted Ford actually saying the words. Wtf?:dunno
     
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    Maybe SRV had one of those earlier OD or OD-II pedals and he referred to it as a tube screamer in hindsight???
     
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    Sounds like a pile o' black Fenders.
    Kinda glad my hearing is not quite so discerning.
     
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    I think that most times when people talk of "the Dumble sound", they mean the ODS range of sounds rather than the SSS ones. The latter always sound like big Fenders to me.
     
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    if that's the case, Robben is obviously talking BS.
    or somebody misinterpreted him.
    Lindley, Browne & Lowell George (among others) had been famous for using Dumbles years before the first TS saw the light of day in '79.
    The Time Machine had not been invented at that point ...
    ymmnv, those are facts.
    Rhino
     
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    I can't find any years for the first production ODS just that he was building high gain amps in the late 70s
     
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    guess it was a WIP thing, I have not been looking over HAD's shoulder myself ...
    apparently he started tinkering with amps in the '60s already.

    but Lowell George had basically built most of his career on his Dumble (early on he started out with Fender and Music Man), he died way too soon in '79, a few months after the birth of the TS. :(
    and Lindley's sweet Dumble tones with Jackson Browne have inspired generations of players, namely on '74's beautiful "Late for the Sky" and '76's "Pretender" albums. :love:
    Don't quote me on this, but "Redneck Friend" from '73's "For Everyman" already has that unique Lindley tone imho, though I have never seen any hard evidence for that. :dunno
    some of the most intense and personal albums from the '70s - if somebody doesn't know them yet, do yourself a big favour and check them out, you will not regret it !
    same for Lowell & the Feat ...

    cheers,
    Rhino
     

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