Dumble vs Two Rock, stupid comparison.

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  1. Clifford-D

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    Just in the last two weeks I've had the opportunity to
    see Steve Kimock and Robben Ford.

    As far as I can see, these guys are the big names behind each amp.

    I always see these two amps compared to each other.

    But I couldn't help wondering what Robben and Steve would sound like
    playing together, but using each others rig.

    I don't think Steve would sound at all like Steve with Robbens Dumble
    and from what I've heard I don't think the Two Rock would sound like
    Robben.

    The Two Rock has a chime thats so important for Steve.
    The Dumble has the spank that Robben needs.

    Two totally different sounds

    So why do they get compared????????????


    And if I owned one, it would have to be the , the...
     
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    Steve plays through a Dumble ODS and a Two Rock. He's had the Dumble since the early 80's I think.

    And your right...Steve & Robben would sound like Steve and Robben if you handed them a one bucker, pointy headed, Floyd Rose Kramer, plugged into a Crate Blue Voodoo.
     
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    wouldn't that be interesting???
     
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    I think that's pretty much the exact opposite of what he was saying.
     
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    Yep your right. I mis-read his post. I still think I'm right though.
     
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    Maybe Steve would sound like John Fogerty through a rolled and tucked Kustom? I'll shut up - I'm just being contrary. ;)
     
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    I think you're right and the original poster is wrong.
     
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    I think you're wrong. They'd PLAY like themselves but wouldn't sound like themselves.
     
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    I read a recent Honest Tune article interviewing Steve and the article mentioned Steve's Zero bandmate John Ciponella. Steve was going on and on about how special and unique John's playing and tone was. He said that one time John grabbed Kimock's trusty old white strat (HUGE strings, TALL action, Dano lipstick pups) and Steve said he still sounded just like John.
     
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    Dumble vs Two Rock - stupid comparison?

    Seeing as how the architecture is very similar and some TR models do their best to emulate certain Dumbles, I'd say it's not a stupid comparison.

    Also, as pointed out earlier, Mr Kimock used a Dumble for years and may still for all I know.

    There's a lot more to tone than the fingers unless we want to redefine the term.

    A tele through a clean Fender sounds a lot different than a Les Paul through a cranked Marshall and a dreadnaught sounds a helluva lot different than a classical.

    Why would Mr Kimock play 3-4 different gtrs and have two amps at a gig if tone was only in the fingers?

    If tones was in the fingers, why is there so much complaint about Clapton's sound since he switched to a Strat? Same player, but definitely different tone between his 1st solo lp and Wheels Of Fire.
     
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    Well said.:BEER
    IMO a players sound,finger print if you will,is in the hands(fingers).
    IMO a players tone has the in the hands equation along with the guitars,amp etc.

    Oh,and for those comments and the OP.
    :munch:munch
     
  12. Tag

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    Wrong TwoRock.

    Steve would need an Emerald Pro to nail Fords tones.
     
  13. dspblues

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    It all depends on what Dumble and Two Rock you're talking about. From what I've seen and heard, the Two Rocks seem to favor the more smooth lead toned Dumble tones, while something like the Carol Ann is voiced like a Dumble with more gain.

    Dumble, Two Rock (Bill Krinard), and I suppose Carol Ann (Alan Philips) are always tweaking and improving their amps. That would also throw a wrench in any blanket comparison. You really need to do this on an amp by amp basis. I don't feel generalities work very well in these discussions.
     
  14. Sean French

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    Tag,I'm so glad you got another Emmy Pro.
    I felt bad after you wanted it back and I had already sold it.
    You were passionate about the Emmy Pro years ago and rediscoved it again and have the same passion.
    I think it's safe to say the Emmy Pro is an amp that speaks to you.
    Just think of the fun you'll be having when you have the Bludo and Glasswerks.
    I anticipate the reviews and clips.:AOK
     
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    Are you trying to say that Dumble had no influence on Two Rock?
    You think they get 5000.00 for an amp because they have chime and not because they are in the Dumble camp of tones?




     
  16. Scott Auld

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    Touche'
     
  17. Tag

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    Thanks Sean. I actually just canceled the Bludo order. My apologies to Brandon. Money is very tight in my business right now, and I am LOVING my E.Pro more than any other clips of the Dumble style amps I am hearing. I am waiting for the amp show to see if one of these amps will really blow me away. I am having serious doubts. I LOVE my E.Pro, and it still seems to have every quality of the best Dumbles. Look at what Ultra says about that tan Dumble, how special it is, and the E.Pro hung right with it toe to toe. As a matter of fact, if ANYTHING, I slightly preferred the E.Pro. I really needed to hear those A/B/C clips from Scott for my piece of mind. I am a skeptic unless I hear it with my own ears. The lack of clips speaks to me. Last year I had the money to burn. The economy has changed big time. I have what my ears want to hear.
     
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    I suspect that either guy could dial in the other's rig to get reasonably close to what they like.
     
  20. pharmx

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    Yep. Why do blanket comparisons? Two-Rocks have different models that sound very different from each other. From my understanding, each Dumble was uniquely voiced as well. I agree with Warren and think that it would make more sense to compare individual models.
     

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