E.V.H. Beat it.

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  1. Barquentine

    Barquentine Member

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    The first time I heard Eddie was on this single. I'd heard of him but I didn't know anyone that had any VH albums. Van Halen didn't have a huge impact in the U.K. I still think it's an incredible solo and I remember thinking 'This is going to change things'.

    My question is for those of you that were fans of VH at the time. When you first heard the single did you know beforehand that EVH was on it ? If not, did you immediately think 'That's Eddie, it couldn't be anyone else' ?
     
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    So - I absolutely would recognize it as EVH and *only* EVH. But as I recall it, the guest spot was SO FREAKIN’ HUGE that there was no way I came to the song without already knowing that Quincy had gotten EVH for it.

    It was stupidly nuclear from a pop culture standpoint. The biggest guitar hero on the biggest pop culture phenom’s biggest song on his biggest album? Fuggedaboudit.
     
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    ...and he wasn't paid a dime for it...
     
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    So, Lukather played the guitar parts and EVH played the solo then.
     
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    I knew it was Eddie immediately.
    Van Halen was so huge in my life at that point that to me it was just another cool Eddie solo. I always thought there were much better solos on VH albums and I never really cared for MJ. I thought it was cool though.
     
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    Yes. The backing band was basically Toto with a few others.
     
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    I didn't know! I recall hearing the song and telling a buddy, "That guy on the Jackson tune is totally ripping off EVH." He enlightened me that it was EVH :)
     
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    I didn’t know it was Edward because I hadn’t gotten into Van Halen yet. Like a lot of us mid 80’s kids, 1984 was when I first heard Van Halen music. But I eventually knew it was Edward because either the MTV VJ’s or Casey Kasem told me :D
     
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    Brilliant marketing as well. How many Van Halen fans bought that album?!
     
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    Sometimes I wonder who Quincy would have asked if Ed turned it down.

    Say you’re looking for a guy with name recognition and flashy/rock style...2nd pick;

    Brian May?
    Jeff Beck?
    Steve Vai? (Although less famous in 1984).
     
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    Oh yeah. I knew it was EVH immediately. NO ONE sounded like Ed back then.
     
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    It was well-advertised enough that Ed was playing on a MJ song, so for me there was no guessing who played the solo. I didn't know until years later that Lukather played all of the other guitar parts.
     
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    Well, Eddie nearly did say no, since he hung up on whoever called him - I think it was Quincy - because he didn’t believe it was him.

    As for whom Q woulda picked, since he went for Steve Stevens on Bad for Dirty Diana, he clearly would’ve been paying attention to who was a popular guitar god at the time. Hmm - imagine if he went for Andy Summers or The Edge!! But given the hard rock edge, if Randy Rhoads was still alive? Warren D?
     
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    Released in 1982.
    RR already gone.
    Steve Stevens not a name yet.
    Warren DiMartini not a name yet.
    Andy Summers, ?
    The Edge, not a name yet.
     
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    I was bussing tables back then. I walked into the kitchen as the restaurant was closing up. The waitresses had the radio on. As soon as i heard it knew it was Eddie. It was only after I heard he was guesting on an MJ track.

    I was about to graduate high school. I had no money. I owned one guitar I could barely afford strings for, but that was a magical time. The world was my oyster as they say.
     
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    None of those, probably. Quincy was clearly going for a flashy, big-name rock guitarist who would draw a lot of attention, and none of those would have done it.

    By '83 Queen was practically a dead issue in the US; despite big hits in '80 and '81 with "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" and "Under Pressure" (with Bowie), their '82 album Hot Space had not been a big seller and they would never again have a big hit in the USA.

    Jeff Beck, similarly, was past his commercial prime.

    Steve Vai, on the other hand, wasn't well enough known yet at that point. A few years later, he or Satriani would have been good choices, but not in '83.

    Randy Rhoads, of course, was no longer available, sadly.

    I'm really not sure who would have made sense as a second choice if EVH had turned it down.
     
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    In ‘82, EVH was “the man”.
     
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    Probably Lukather since he was already there
     
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    Steve Lukather
    Neil Schon
    Carlos Santana
    Eliot Easton
    ???
     
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