Early 80's silverface Fenders

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  1. eveninhisyouth

    eveninhisyouth Member

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    I hear some complaints about construction on these late silverface amps. Was it just the cabinets changing to plywood, or something more?

    Around what time did the changes occur?



    Trying to figure out if it is worth paying a premium for a slightly earlier model.
     
  2. eveninhisyouth

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    In general: if the black eyelet board is waxed up with the hygroscopic paraffin, forget about it.

    Jelle
     
  4. swiveltung

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    I'm not sure what things changed and when. The cabs are one thing, The chassis changed a bit to a slightly different metalwork design.
    If it's not PCB construction my opinion is they can all be made to sound BF.
    Did the turret boards change? all the BF are waxy too....
     
  5. Blue Strat

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    SF "issues" began in the late '60s. Stranded wire which made it difficult to route wires and keep them in place, circuit changes, etc. By 1980 they were into Rivera Era amps which were completely new designs with things like overdrive channels.

    None are horrible and all can be modified, or not, to perform well.
     
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    No such animal.
     
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    If you believe that, you haven't seen the waxy ones.

    Robert
     
  8. eveninhisyouth

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    Can you clarify?

    I have seen more than one silverface fender, advertised as a 1980 model.

    When was the last silverface produced?
     
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    I think they went to a BF panel n 80 for the last SF then in late 80 or 81 new designs came out. So like they did at marshall in the 70's old parts were used up as new parts arrived. So an exact date is very fuzzy 80-81 is about it
     
  10. eveninhisyouth

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    Ok, so there likely ARE some SF amps, at least from 1980.

    Appreciate some good knowledge, thanks!
     
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    Yes, my buddy has a Bassman 10 that is SF and dated 1980. They changed mid year sometime.
     
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    I had a 80 Deluxe Reverb with the reissue blackface panel. It sounded virtually identical to my 1968 and the wiring and construction seemed the same. I guess glued in baffles and MDF came along in the early 70s? so no big changes in the small amps. I'd be very happy with a 1980 Deluxe, Princeton or Champ. As the amps got bigger the changes got more egregious: weird master volumes, UL OTs and so on. Not sure about the Vibrolux or the Bandmaster, but anything bigger than that I'd stay away from.
     
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    Wow.....really.?
    That is interesting.
    I thought avoiding moisture absorption was The Reason FOR the wax.
    Of course, they could have out-smarted themselves.
    So how big of a problem were the raw, vulcanized, untreated boards.?
    They had a reputation of being conductive.....but I have only experienced that one time, with a 68-69 Bassman.
     

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