Echopark Guitars

Discussion in 'The Small Company Luthiers' started by datguytim, Jan 27, 2013.


  1. Mooster

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    3 things on EPG pricing:

    1. The guitar you’re waiting to receive is $500 cheaper on the downloaded price list on his website. Have a look, $10,000 vs $10,500 he quoted to you.

    2. When I asked for a case study it was priced at $11,500, but a very similar guitar got shipped to the local store for the equivalent of $9,989. But if you look on the price list to build a guitar in the same spec, it’s $7,500. But it’s not called a “case study”. I don’t know if it’s magic wood that’s missing but it’s the same species of wood, same spec, etc.

    3. I think JPH118 had the same issue, when I was thinking about and inquiring about the spec of the guitar whilst it was just an order on a form, I was quoted ever increasing prices for things that were not supposed to cost extra. That stopped me changing my mind about the spec after the invoice was made.
     
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    I called Cliff to see if the 'Downtowner Custom' he had on his site was available, as it was indicated on DAG that it was. It wasn't. We had a chat about EP. Lasted an hour. There wasn't any more than that. Honestly, going from thinking you may be able to buy an Axe and have it in a couple Days vs being told you have to order and hang for 9 months put a serious downer on my impulses. There was no, let me think it over with Cliff, or I'll get back to ya. I was curious about the one his site said was there, and it wasn't. We talked at length about Gabriel and the guitars he makes.
     
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    That sucks, I hope you get everything you paid for.
     
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    Mine was a little different... I placed my order in early 2015 just after prices had been raised across the board, but was ok with the total invoice price. A year (or maybe two) later, I noticed the same model was reduced back to its old price, which was annoying for sure since I was still waiting for mine, but I couldn’t really complain, that’s just business. The really egregious part was when my final invoice had my initial deposit amount lowered by $300, but the grand total stayed the same, so the difference/amount due was greater than on the first invoice. I raised the issue, and it was immediately changed with no argument or explanation. Could’ve been an honest mistake, if the numbers were re-typed for some reason. Glad I had checked the original invoice though.
     
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  6. cholula69

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    I would call the invoice an honest mistake. I know Dawn was having trouble with migraine headaches and she managed to work through this trouble. I also had a small invoice error but it was promptly corrected.
     
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    Migraines never cause initial deposit errors to be for more than what was actually paid, only less. It's amazing how the brain works!
     
  8. 2016aug29

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    Now here's an Echopark I could buy:

    http://www.vintagegitar.no/gitar-el...rk-guitars/3617-echopark-clarence-j-gold-coil

    Apart from some "gunk" on the left bottom part of the neck - looks like pickguard foil? - this one looks like it's done right. Expensive, but if I had the money, that's one I'd be interested in (same model as Greg Leisz played at that Bill Frisell show I mentioned earlier - sounded great).
     
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    Sorry. That's just sad.
     
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    How so? I can't see any flaws, apart from the one I thing mentioned, which may not be a flaw at all.
     
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    I'm guessing the point is that it's sad that you have to look thru dozens to find a multi thousand dollar guitar without flaws that can be seen from 10' away.
     
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  12. 2016aug29

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    That is sad indeed. What is maybe sadder is that clearly the man in question knows how to make a fun, different, cool-looking, great-sounding, good-quality guitar - which is what caught my attention in the first place - arguable worthy of the price tag. Such a shame that he throws it all away like that.
     
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    Looks like the protective plastic is still on the pick guard. Cool looking guitar...I was thinking of ordering one of this model when it came out.
     
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    I played a couple of El Montes at CME recently and I really liked the neck carve, very comfortable and full without being unamanageable.
     
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    Are they more of a '54 baseball bat style or something different?
     
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    The neck was a full C shaped neck. Kind of similar to a Warmoth Boat Neck carve.
     
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    That makes me wonder how many others had "errors" that weren't caught... in the excitement of finally receiving the invoice, i nearly paid it without due diligence. Fortunately, I was raised by a bookkeeper who analyzed every receipt & bill she ever received.
     
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  18. cholula69

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    I think if it was more widespread people would say something. I really believe it was an honest mistake. Given the volume of work, acceptable. I was not raised by an accountant and I still caught it.
     
  19. cholula69

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    Sounds like a nice neck profile especially if the shoulders a rolled a bit.
     
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