Effects Loop Help

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by novawind, Jul 26, 2008.

  1. novawind

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    So I'm trying to hook up my pedals with my new TSL60 head and it's not playing nicely.

    In front of the amp I have:

    Wah - Dynacomp - OCD - TS9 - DS1 - BBE Sonic Stomp - EB Volume Jr

    Then in the loop I have:

    MXR Chorus - DD20

    And for some reason, I guess it's mixing the wet and dry signals but the dry signal is WAY WAY WAY larger than the wet. For example, I can barely hear the delays from the DD20 when I have the effect level maxed out. I also maxed out the FX Mix knob on the head. Is there something else I'm missing here?

    Already checked to make sure everything is powered and audio cables are connected correctly (unless this has something to do with the output hookup on the DD20). I also really don't want to put the DD20 in FRONT of the amp because then I my Marshall's distortion will sound weird after being delayed first.
     
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  3. novawind

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    So I set the DD20 to the +4 dB output like it says to use for effects loops but the repeats are still extremely quiet. Could I resolve the situation by putting a really clean boost in the effects loop? I tried putting my TS9 in the loop, setting the gain to min and the level to max. That helped a little bit but still with max level on the TS9, max effect level on the DD20 and the right output settings the echo signal was still lower than I like it.
     
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    I just read some of the Marshall's manual. I think they mentioned that there is an effects loop level switch. When pulled its +4, when pushed in its -10. So maybe that would help out?

    "Your TSL combo amp is fitted with a parallel FX
    Loop, this is placed after the gain and distortion
    parts of the preamp and is the ideal place for
    inserting time varying effects, such as delay,
    digital reverb, chorus, pitch shifting, etc. By being
    a parallel loop, this means that the direct signal is
    kept within the TSL’s circuit and therefore your
    tone is not degraded by sending it outside the amp.
    To use the loop connect your effects processor
    (rack type units are better at this job) as described
    earlier, turn the effects units direct signal path off
    (the FX units manual will tell you how to do this),
    set up the unit to give you the effect you require
    and then balance your direct sound and effected
    sound using the FX MIX control on the front of
    your amp. Easy!
    Floor type effects stomp boxes are designed to
    work in between a guitar and the input of an amp
    and should not be used in a parallel loop,
    otherwise some very weird and undesired effects
    could occur. For their best use, use them where
    they are designed to go."

    Good luck.

    dk
     
  5. novawind

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    Yep, I tried the +4 dB switch both on and off, as well as using the +4 dB output mode on the DD20. I guess I'll just have to resort to using a booster before the DD20. (Some reviews of the EHX Linear Power Booster say its good for just this application).
     

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