EL34 recommendations

gkelm

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I have a 75 Marshall head incoming...yipee! I'll proably get it retubed & biased. Any thoughts on current production EL34s? I've heard good things about Svetlana, good & bad about Ruby...what else? I'd rather not spend huge $$ on NOS...but are there any reasonably priced NOS to consider?

Thanks.
Greg
 

sampleinajar

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Originally posted by GuitslingerTim
Try the SED 'winged-c' El34s.
I agree with that. I compared the winged C SED tubes and the EH EL-34 (not their new "mullard things") and the SEDs were clear winners, for me personally, in my Germino amp. I have heard great things about some of the JJ varieties in Marshall amps, but have yet to try them myself.

Cheers,

Steve
 

BIGGERSTAFF

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I have a '75 JMP, and I've had JJ E34Ls and the SED Winged Cs.
Both are great- the JJs are perhaps rounder, while the SEDs have a bit more sizzle in the high end(in a very good way). Both clean up well with my volume knob.

Rog
 

TaronKeim

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Has anyone compaired any of these to the Mullards, I have a LoVo 55 on the way and am considering taking the leap on a matched pair of them... it really worth it? And how long do they last?

-TJK
 

gkelm

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Thanks for the responses, guys...this is helpful. More certainly welcome. :)
 

sinasl1

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Taron,

You mean old Mullards (I.E. real ones)?

Is it worth it? Awwww it's tough to say, listen to some of the clips I just did with my new Flexi on this page:

http://music.mp3lizard.com/petethorn/

there's one that says "THD Semiens", obviously that's with Semiens 34's, and one that says "THD EL34B-Matsu" that's first Chinese EL34B's and then Matsushita (Japan Mullards basically)... you be the judge. I personally like Semiens and Mullard tubes a whole lot, but changing output tubes doesn't make nearly the difference that say, changing speakers makes.

I say, get one or two pairs of NOS tubes for recording and a rainy day, and be happy with EH's, SED's, etc. for gigging and daily rocking.

Having said this, I still haven't tried real American 6ca7's yet... bet that's a bigger change than going from one 34 to another 34...
 

sampleinajar

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Originally posted by sinasl1

I say, get one or two pairs of NOS tubes for recording and a rainy day, and be happy with EH's, SED's, etc. for gigging and daily rocking.

Sage advice. I love the Seimens tubes, FWIW, but the plate voltage is a bit high in my Lead55 for them (485 volts). After the recent thread here about using them in a Shiva, I am encouraged to give them a try anyway. I just picked up a pair of the JJ E34LS last night, so I will give them a try and post back with a comparison of the EH, SED, and JJ tubes - pretty much all of the major new production EL34's these days. Don't know about that "new" Mullard stuff...no one seems to be talking much about them.

Cheers,

Steve
 

Igneous

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Ive gone from winged c's to new sensor mullard copies. They sound mint!!!ImHO

cheers-IG
 

TaronKeim

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Originally posted by sinasl1
Taron,

You mean old Mullards (I.E. real ones)?

I say, get one or two pairs of NOS tubes for recording and a rainy day, and be happy with EH's, SED's, etc. for gigging and daily rocking.

Having said this, I still haven't tried real American 6ca7's yet... bet that's a bigger change than going from one 34 to another 34...
Yep... I was gonna buy a pair of real ones from KCA... and I really do like the sound of those Siemens in your clips. They are far more affordable but what is the life span on them. People think $325 for a pair of Mullards is too much money, but then when you think a pair of production EL34's only lasts 2 years and costs you $75 to $100 you start wondering if the 20 years you'd get out of those Mullards is really all that bad:dude Great advice though. How has the life been on those Siemens?

-TJK
 

gkelm

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Hey guys...thanks for the input. Just unpacked it today...here's the eye candy (75 JMP at center stage):



It came without power tubes, so I popped in some chinese I had on hand (could not wait). Sounds great already. :D

Greg
 




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