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Electro-Harmonix HOG Pedal does "Wont Get Fooled Again"

Bill Ruppert

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Here is a clip of the Electro-Harmonix HOG Pedal doing a sound similar to the Keyboard part
from The Who,s "Wont Get Fooled Again".

What is mind blowing is its done with just a regular guitar with a regular humbucker pickup.
I/4 cable in, that's it!


The Chain of effects was the Electro-Harmonix HOG pedal with a 1/4 note delay and a tiny
bit of Reverb.
The star of the show was the filter effect with in the HOG.
Its a juicy 12dB per octave 2-pole low pass filter controlled by a foot pedal.
Rocked like a WA pedal it made the sound come to life.

On a side note the original sound was done by Pete Townsend playing block chords spread
between the two keyboards of the 1968 Lowrey Berkshire Deluxe TBO-1 organ. The output of the
organ was fed into the audio input of the EMS VCS3 mk1 Synthesizer.

My Guitar-HOG clip is here:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=937182

Bill Ruppert
 

CharAznable

Silver Supporting Member
Messages
17,077
Here is a clip of the Electro-Harmonix HOG Pedal doing a sound similar to the Keyboard part
from The Who,s "Wont Get Fooled Again".

What is mind blowing is its done with just a regular guitar with a regular humbucker pickup.
I/4 cable in, that's it!


The Chain of effects was the Electro-Harmonix HOG pedal with a 1/4 note delay and a tiny
bit of Reverb.
The star of the show was the filter effect with in the HOG.
Its a juicy 12dB per octave 2-pole low pass filter controlled by a foot pedal.
Rocked like a WA pedal it made the sound come to life.

On a side note the original sound was done by Pete Townsend playing block chords spread
between the two keyboards of the 1968 Lowrey Berkshire Deluxe TBO-1 organ. The output of the
organ was fed into the audio input of the EMS VCS3 mk1 Synthesizer.

My Guitar-HOG clip is here:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=937182

Bill Ruppert
Question!
Is the volume swell on the "Mellotron" clips achieved by the POG itself?
 

Bill Ruppert

Member
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Question!
Is the volume swell on the "Mellotron" clips achieved by the POG itself?
I used a volume pedal for the swells.
Any brand volume pedal will do.

Chain order for EHX sounds were:

Flute Sound:
Guitar humbucker bridge pickup on a Jem guitar ,tone knob rolled off slightly-Graphic Fuzz -POG- Poly Chorus
- Boss Vibrato- Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai.
Any Electro Harmonix Vibrato/Trem would be fine.
(If I had one I would have used that!)

A Flute sound is a Sine wave which is a wave that has the upper harmonics rolled off.
The POG filter in the second position did the trick.
A simple flute sound is constructed basically of just the fundamental note.
In other words its just the original note with out any octave sliders added.
The dry signal path with the filter slider (filter switch 2) turned down made it work.
Before the POG I used a Graphic Fuzz with a very small amount of Dist and a EQ curve of an upside down smile. In other words 1000Hz was pushed up and the other sliders around it were lowered.
This Pre-EQ helped the POG by boosting that fundamental note and rolling off the upper and low frequencies.

Mellotron Strings
Effect Chain was a humbucker bridge pickup on a Jem guitar into the POG and then into the Poly Chorus and volume pedal.
Delays and Reverb were added right after that.
Nothing special ,what ever you have shoud work.
You have to adjust the EQ (tone Controls) on your amp to work with what are using it with.
I went direct into ProTools.


Who,s Organ:
The Chain of effects was the Electro-Harmonix HOG pedal with a 1/4 note delay and a tiny bit of Reverb.
That was it.
I tried to add more but it just started sounding less real!

Hope that helps.
Bill Ruppert
 

CharAznable

Silver Supporting Member
Messages
17,077
I used a volume pedal for the swells.
Any brand volume pedal will do.

Chain order for EHX sounds were:

Flute Sound:
Guitar humbucker bridge pickup on a Jem guitar ,tone knob rolled off slightly-Graphic Fuzz -POG- Poly Chorus
- Boss Vibrato- Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai.
Any Electro Harmonix Vibrato/Trem would be fine.
(If I had one I would have used that!)

A Flute sound is a Sine wave which is a wave that has the upper harmonics rolled off.
The POG filter in the second position did the trick.
A simple flute sound is constructed basically of just the fundamental note.
In other words its just the original note with out any octave sliders added.
The dry signal path with the filter slider (filter switch 2) turned down made it work.
Before the POG I used a Graphic Fuzz with a very small amount of Dist and a EQ curve of an upside down smile. In other words 1000Hz was pushed up and the other sliders around it were lowered.
This Pre-EQ helped the POG by boosting that fundamental note and rolling off the upper and low frequencies.

Mellotron Strings
Effect Chain was a humbucker bridge pickup on a Jem guitar into the POG and then into the Poly Chorus and volume pedal.
Delays and Reverb were added right after that.
Nothing special ,what ever you have shoud work.
You have to adjust the EQ (tone Controls) on your amp to work with what are using it with.
I went direct into ProTools.


Who,s Organ:
The Chain of effects was the Electro-Harmonix HOG pedal with a 1/4 note delay and a tiny bit of Reverb.
That was it.
I tried to add more but it just started sounding less real!

Hope that helps.
Bill Ruppert

Thanks! That's just great stuff.

I'm GASing heavily for a pedalboard full of EH gear.
 

CharAznable

Silver Supporting Member
Messages
17,077
If I were going to build a stunt guitar pedalboard out of EH gear... what items would be necessary?

Does the HOG overlap with the Microsynth?
 

Bill Ruppert

Member
Messages
557
If I were going to build a stunt guitar pedalboard out of EH gear... what items would be necessary?

Does the HOG overlap with the Microsynth?

"Stunt guitar pedalboard"
Wow, I never hear that phrase before but I Love it!

The Micro Synth does not over lap at all with the POG or HOG.
Mirco Synth Octave up is like a Octavia fuzz and its lower octave is like a MXR Blue box.
The HOG and POG and for the most part are pitch shifters like an Eventide unit.

For a stunt board I would have Micro Synth-POG or HOG or Both-Poly Chorus-16 second delay reissue-Holiest Grail Reverb- Memory Man with Haxarai-Graphic Fuzz -Compressor and Distortion/Fuzz.
Later add an envelope filter- Square wave and sine Tremelo-Flanger Hoax and a volume pedal which is a must.
Endless fun!
Bill Ruppert
PS
I will have more clips in the near future of some of the above pedals doing cool things.
 

Bottle_Rocket

Member
Messages
176
Hey Bill,
All those clips on that site are great! Can you do them on the fly in a performance setting or is it mainly a studio thing?
 

joolzriff

Member
Messages
2,171
im sold on that who thing! that has put an end to my bands WANTING to do that song but we couldnt thingy! brilliant...thankyou
 

Bill Ruppert

Member
Messages
557
Bottle Rocket
Yes you can do it live just as well.
It would help to have some sort of loop selector to switch the HOG and Delay in and out with one fast move.
Bill Ruppert
 

molokaio

Member
Messages
194
Great use of all those pedals!
The hog is an endless source of cool sounds! One of my favourite pedals. With the use of the exp pedal you can do very crazy things.
I use the hog for more ambient or ethereal sounds, but your recreation of the B3 and the who is astonishing.

The microsynth is a totally different beast, yes it adds oct up and down, but they're distorted and affected by the sweep filter, very different and vintage sounding.

The only pedal i dont own is the pog... but i assume the hog can cover pretty much all the pog does right? or does the pog have a triggered sweep filter like the microsynth?
Keep em coming! :D

edit: ah, the deviever is a pedal that feeds back to the circuit the out put of the pedal in the loop? how does it work? do you know similar pedals to this one?
 

Bill Ruppert

Member
Messages
557
Molokaio,
I thought the the HOG would be able to duplicate the sound of the POG
but soon found they do sound very different to my ears.
The POG has sliders for a detuned upper octave.
The POG has far less pitch voices than the HOG but it has a great this upper octave sound I could not get from the HOG.

So.... no POG in the HOG and no HOG in the POG!!!

Yes there are TONS of feedback loop pedals on the market but "devi ever" is the only one with a photo cell control.
Its a totally passive circuit.

Bill Ruppert
 




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