Embarrassed to ask but....

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  1. scott944

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    Beat me to it.
     
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  2. AlanH

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    This is the best tone I've ever heard for this song. Many other versions just sound too thin to me....

     
  3. Eugene Wallace

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    As a player, I'm less interested in 'why', than just finding a body that has superior tone properties. The ' why' factor is a distraction, but a necessary one I'm afraid when looking for advantage in tone.
     
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    Home unit. TONIGHT, put headphones on when it is quiet and listen ssl-1's at the Duncan website. Position 4 glass is where it is at. SSL-1 are glassy, vintage and can be tamed with volume and tone.
     
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    Too bad he isn't using a strat with ssl-1's.
     
  6. homeunit

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    That’s a first, ask a question about a strat and get suggested a LP with the exact opposite sound of what I’m after. Interesting.
     
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    will do, thanks.
     
  8. Presc

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    I just did a little clip of the Sultans solo out of sheer quarantine boredom. Here it is:



    I’ve been a huge Knopfler fan for a long time. It’s really all the bridge/middle setting. To my ears, he uses that far more than neck/middle. Low output pickups, a little bit of compression, and blackface Fender amp on the edge of breakup will get you there, although I’ve read he used a Roland JC120 often as well.

    Fingerstyle technique is also important as MK does not use a pick - he can snap the strings which emphasizes the quack.

    My Strat in the video above has Rocketfire Total 60s pickups. Amp is a Deluxe Reverb and I’m running a Barber Tone Press at low compression/blend. I step on a Barber Gain Changer OD with the gain set pretty low after I lay down the rhythm loop. But really any decent 50s/60s repro Strat pickups will do just fine.
     
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    nice job, thanks. You got it clucking a bit there. I think I’ll hang onto this strat, get the electronics sorted and start messing with the pickups.
     
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    I love that MK strat sound, although I come from a Richard Thompson background when he had a very similar sound. Some say that Mark Knopfler had low output pickups, but a hot middle pickup -- a Dimarzio I believe. In fact, Don Mare used to sell a set for a Dire Straights tone with these specifications. For me, I take the tone knob off of the middle pickup and put it on the bridge pickup. The lack of tone control makes the middle pickup a bit hotter and gets a nicer #2 and #4 position. Also, I like to play loud and clean. Mark used a compressor, but it helps to have your clean sound loud enough to be pushing the power amp to just being on the cusp of overdriving. Have fun!
     
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    I agree with SSL-1s, but also SSL-2, which is the same set but flat poles. I think it is better for modern Strats with a plain G string.
     
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    Listen to everything that applies, there are antiquities too
     
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    Lindy fralin rewired MK’s pickups, so I’d ask him, he’s been in his guitar.
     
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    I've read that Sultan's was played on the middle pickup only? Sounds like a low wind pickup to me, maybe around 5k, with formvar wire.
     
  15. homeunit

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    got to say, I like the ssl5 the best. Now what for neck and middle, ssl5s as well?
     
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    Nothing wrong with two ssl-1's and a 5 in the bridge.
     
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    I have attached an article below to check out. He used a hot Dimarzio pickup in the middle position. If you put any hot middle pickup and set it up close to the strings and lower the bridge and neck pickup, you will get that sound. It takes a little bit of time to dial it in, no pun intended. If you look at videos of Knopfler during this time, he started with the hot pickup in the middle slot and then he moved it at some point.

    https://www.mk-guitar.com/2008/12/10/the-dimarzio-fs-1-pick-up-of-mark-knopflers-red-stratocaster/
     
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    Thank you. Lord Davids vibe is the priority, Marks is second for me.
     

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