Eminence C.Rex for my Deluxe Handwired Clone (OD and Fuzz questions)

[Jdawgy]

I want to get a C.Rex for my Recent '64 Deluxe Build (AB763) but I want to know more about the speaker when it is pushed...

I'm sure the clean tone would be amazing!!!....But how does it handle a strat into a TS, Big Muff, or Fuzz Face?... Smooth? Edgy? Neutral?...Etc...

My amp was built with all Sozo Caps, Fat Stack Mercury Magnetics Trannies, so I run 6L6 Svetlana "C" wings.

My Strat has Lindy Fralin Blues Special PUPS with a RS Guitarworks wiring harness.

Thanks!!!

 

[riffmeister]

The C Rex is a 50W speaker and your amp is how many watts, 30 watts? (I don't think you'll be able to push the speaker hard enough to get it to break up) It is a darker speaker and so it will sound good with fuzz pedals......smooth sounds will emerge. I'm using one with a 40 watt Dumble ODS style amp I and really like the sound because the top end is smooth not edgy. And sounds great to me in a live band mix.

 

[Jdawgy]

Any other input?

 

[Leonc]

I use a CRex with my SF Deluxe Reverb. Sounds freaking great with my pedals. The nice thing is, no cone-cry or weird sonic artifacts. I don't use fuzz per se, but fuzz would sound great through it, I'm sure. Kills with a TS.

 

[Hippie Ninja]

I will +1 the recommendation. Smooth is the order of the day.

 

[ryandfl]

I have a Cannabis Rex in an Avatar semi open back (right up again a wall though) 2x12 along with a Celestion 70th Anniversary G12H. The combo sounds pretty darn good. Swapping the Vintage 30 that was in there with the C Rex was a big improvement, adding more clarity, reducing brittleness and generally sounding full and kind of earthy. But I've never used it by itself.

 

[Jdawgy]

Anymore input??

How does it handle FF & Muffs?

 

[ScioBro]

A C.Rex is what I'm using in my hand-wired clone of a 1964 Deluxe Reverb with MM fat stack tranny.

I'm sure it'll work fine for you. I thought it was rated at 60 watts.

I'm using a Barber Ltd OD and it sounds great smooth

WGS's new G12C/S gets a good mention too although I haven't tried it.

 

[Jdawgy]

Thanks Blues Owl!
I have a buddy who has a Barber LTD OD and I know what that sounds like so I cant wait to get my C.Rex that I just ordered (yup, I pulled the trigger)... I wanna hear my AM OD9 Silver through it !!!


Still, i'm curious about FFaces and MUFFs...

 

[ScioBro]

I play a baritone guit thru my rig(s), so there are low frequencies and OD'd baritone is very aggressive. The Crex doesn't fart out or anything...seems to handle the low end thrown at it.

note1: been playing a long time but I've never found myself realizing that I was hearing and enjoying a speaker's break-up contribution to the overall tone.
I DO check my preferences with speakers in both clean and amp-OD'd conditions....so some of my amp-OD'd luv for this or that may be including break-up w/o me knowing it.

note2: I think vs. others, I like a darker speaker...the crex fits that. I've disliked a lot of speakers that I know are beloved with Fender amps.....like most Jensens....or JBL D120Fs........my dislike was the brightness and perceived harshness.

Most common spkr complaints from me are:
bass farts out
too bright
harsh sounding, esp. when OD'd

The crex has produced only good tones, no offensive ones.

scuze me whilst I pick some cork fragments out of my nostrils....
but my fave now is a 2x12 avatar semi-open with Crex and ASW Elegante (alnico)

I'm re-freshing a 60's Fender 2x12 cab...and I'll probably put the crex and ASW E in that cab (matches the F. heads more better)

back to the DR and it's single 12...its a Crex

 

[HughesP]

I'm not sure this link will work for you (doesn't work on mobile devices and I'm not sure if it works outside of Canada), but I've been playing a Drri with a c.rex speaker quite a bit, and just did a TV performance with a big muff for the solo.

Not a strat, but I think the fuzz sounds awesome.

http://video.citytv.com/video/detail/1892023425001.000000/musical-performance-by-nuela-charles-2/

If the video works for you, it can give you an idea of the big muff - deluxe - C.Rex pairing.

 

[HughesP]

forgot to add, the solo starts somewhere around 3:00 mark.

 

[Jdawgy]

forgot to add, the solo starts somewhere around 3:00 mark.

The band sounds good!

I don't know if it is my speakers but I couldn't hear the lead tone very well... ... clean tone was slammin'!!!

 

[HughesP]

hmmm... I have the opposite problem on my speakers!

Seems they definitely did some strange mix things with the guitar at points and it is fairly heavily panned. Maybe take a listen with head phones?

Yeah, just tried playing it on my wife's laptop - totally hear how the lead guitar seems too low in the mix. Headphones are my recommendation.

Regardless, though, I think that speaker & fuzz sound great together.

 

[Jdawgy]

I finally got the Crex in my amp and it already has about 15 hrs played on it.

Pros:
-My effects have never sounded better (Minus the OD).
-It is CLEAN-LOUD!!!
-The response is awesome after just 15hrs of playing.

Cons:
-Clean tones are not "spanky". That's bad for me because I play ALOT of different "clean-tone" gigs (country, funk, pop, jazz) and I need a better clean tone.

-I DO NOT like the way it handles my AM Silver Maxon OD9... it smooths out the tone WAY TOO much, as well as altering the "tone of the gain"

Hopefully the "cons" will go away after alot more "break-in" time, because that's the ONLY thing from keeping me from TOTALLY IN LOVE with my Crex!

My plan "B", should the "cons" not get any better with more "break-in" time, is to find a speaker that is EXACTLY like a Vintage 30, but with a stronger cone..... what would that be?

Thanks guys for the help!!!

 

[Dale]

It is a smooth speaker, that will not go away as it breaks in more. At least my 2 have not. It is in fact what I like - it sweetens the highs to me (takes out harsh) but does not really attenuate them in my view.

 

[No457 Snowy]

I found my Crex speaker needed a lot of break-in time and it just keeps improving, it has around 40 hours on it at band volumes and it is still improving. It has actually changed quite a lot since installing it, even other band members noticed it, mine actually started out with a bit of crackly harshness on the top end but then smoothed out with some hours on it.

Give it plenty of time at decent volume and it will probably give you what you are looking for, the key is to play it and give it time, but fat smoothness is it's signature sound.

 

[Dale]

Yes, it took 30-40 (or more) hours to break both of mine.

 

[Jdawgy]

I'm now at 35hrs of playing and the "cons" have ALL gone away!!!

 

[ScioBro]

Congrats! Is the paper of the cone green? thats hemp for ya!

Here's my Stu Daddy DR clone...running 7C5s (6V6s)....not 6L6s like you Jdawgy
This tone is probably both channels on together with ch. vol.s up and the Barber on as well.
pardon the dodgy playing, all you prodigies out there

not sure what the take away is....recorded thru Zoom H1

just yammin'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh7OMJ-CP2g