Emporium guys: no need to be rude...

circle_o_5ths

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While I understand the feeling the seller might have that you reneged, the truth is, a deal is a deal when the money hits the table. Equally, I am not holding anything for you, if you are serious show me the money. People walk away from letters of intent on significant business deals, saying "I'll take it" is a joke.
 

TonePilot

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Seriously, have some level of class if you're buying/selling. The rudeness and name calling isn't needed.

If you don't have my money in your Paypal, I haven't "committed to buying" your item. Just because I messaged you saying I'd like to buy it, and then someone else with the same item messaged me back before you did, doesn't mean you get to chew me out.
I get that you might be annoyed, but ugliness isn't helping anyone.

Hell, I've probably had my share of bad communication in deals before, but that doesn't mean you need to be a jerk. If you de-listed your item just because I said I was interested, that's your problem. If I'm selling something, I don't take it down until I've got the cash in my account.

Stay cool, people.
You should have kept your word unless it took him a day or two to get back to you. I don’t delist anything until I have the cash either. Might be a new seller.
 

Devin

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So you were pissed he wouldn't break the Paypal User Agreement, and remove all protections for himself during the sale, and you think he did something wrong?!?!?
blocked.... jk. I never thought of it that way. Back in 2012 pp gift was pretty standard here, things got more serious I understand. He never even mentioned buyer protection.

I get that I lost the sale in the negotiation.... he could have just said, "no pp regular" and I would be fine with it. Lost a ton $$$ on that parts guitar.

my bad guy :oops:
 
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Gasp100

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I always try to preface this sort of thing with something like I'm looking at a few different options, will get back ASAP. But I fully accept if something is sold before I get back to the seller.
Likewise, if someone commits to buying I put them at the top of the list and expect them to pay for said item.
I had someone offer me a discount rate for an item and agreed to that price. He did not pay immediately.
In the meantime another offered full asking price...
I stood by my word and waited for the original buyer who came through.
By your logic I could have canceled the original buyer just to make more money, but I stuck to my word as a seller.
 

Cody

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There is no reason to message a seller that you’d like to buy his/her item, other than to put the item on hold so it won’t get sold out from under you.

To take refuge in semantics, like “I was only expressing a wish”, is bull.
 

Devin

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most annoying additions in emporium ads are
"my wife _______"
"if i had the cash...", yes obviously if I had the cash would buy allot of stuff on the emporium
 

Devin

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Its a terrible time to be a seller period. I only unload stuff I can't stand seeing sitting around.
 

cutaway

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I've been buying and selling gear for twenty years now. I don't even listen to anything until the money has cleared my account. I've been told so many things over the years. I just shake it off and move on. I price my gear right and losing a buyer doesn't make or break me. It moves.

I can see how the owner of the laughably priced items in the Emporium would lose it by losing a sale. That just means it'll sit another year or so.
 

TheGuildedAge

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This is what an honorable human does. When in doubt, imagine the transaction taking place face to face, with all parties present, and do the right thing.
Agreed.

Not to pat myself on the back, but I sold a White Face Reissue rat a few years ago. I had no idea they were rare and I got $95 for it. After I sold it, I realized my error, but I sold the guy the pedal for the price it was listed at. Killed me learn what the market value was but I think your credibility and integrity matters.

Telling someone you are ready to buy and then flaking is pretty lousy.
 

Tiny Montgomery

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blocked.... jk. I never thought of it that way. Back in 2012 pp gift was pretty standard here, things got more serious I understand. He never even mentioned buyer protection.

I get that I lost the sale in the negotiation.... he could have just said, "no pp regular" and I would be fine with it. Lost a ton $$$ on that parts guitar.

my bad guy :oops:
It was never “standard,” just common enough to make a rule against it necessary. It was always frowned upon.

The mere mention of PPG is a deal-breaker, for me. It’s an ethical red flag.
 

DreamTheaterRules

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I suspect you are going to get a bunch of guys that disagree with you. Some people believe a man is only as good as his word.
Lol telling someone you’re going to buy something from them and reneging is lame.
I agree with that, big time, but it's all relative. I've had people tell me FOR SURE they are buying something. Comitted to price, terms, even went and got shipping quotes, and they only need to get paypaled for something else they've sold here to have the rest of the cash, and that the guy is sending paypal any minute for... then 3 days later say they've changed their mind. That is lame!

I've also messaged someone saying "I'm interested in your xyz, please PM me to discuss." And didn't get a reply til 4 days later. By then, I'd found another one and bought it. Then the guy gives me crap, saying "I already spent that money from this sale on something else because you said you wanted it" when A) we hadn't even talked terms yet and B) it took 4 days to answer me. But he took "I'm interested" as "I'm buying it."
 

Stev0Griffin

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Actually my system is a bit of both. If user 1 has said they will buy it, and I have agreed, and user 2 comes calling, I just say sorry, another user has said they will buy it, but if the deal falls through you’ll be the first to know.

I honour the first buyer even if the second offers more money.

If the first buyer walks away, no hard feelings. There’s f-all I can do, so no point getting upset about it.
Nah, that makes too much sense. This is TGP, buddy! Can’t talk like that here!
 

Devin

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I did not understand my ethical faux pas at the time, I had done lots of pp gift buying here when it wasn't "Against the rules"
My intention was not to be unethical. Guy said he would buy $1200 worth of parts for $680, I made a bad move I admit it, but he totally bailed on me after commitment to buy. Sorry guys. I only do pp regular now like a normal good person. Good to get some perspective on it now.
 

Emigre

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I did not understand my ethical faux pas at the time, I had done lots of pp gift buying here when it wasn't "Against the rules"
My intention was not to be unethical. Guy said he would buy $1200 worth of parts for $680, I made a bad move I admit it, but he totally bailed on me after commitment to buy. Sorry guys. I only do pp regular now like a normal good person. Good to get some perspective on it now.
What is a commitment? Did you guys exchange vows?

I will walk away at anytime if a seller throws up red flags, sorry to say. I know it might not have been your intention, but rules are rules, and rule number 1 is if anything seems off... walk. I need any item less than I need grief.
 




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