Epiphone Casino help

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  1. AndreasG

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    Want to buy one for fun, and am considering two....one is a 2002 from the Peerless factory, the other is a recent (about 2 years old) John Lennon Limited Edition. Both are natural, and the Lennon is only about 50$ more..from a search I did here the Lennon is the better guitar, right?
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  2. OM Flyer

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    "Better" is relative.

    The MIC Lennon has a 5-ply body, Gibson pickups and Switchcraft electronics. I've experienced some uneven fretwork coming out of that factory, however.

    In many people's opinion, the Peerless factory produced the best MIK Casinos, and lots of folks intentionally seek them out for quality. I had a 1997 Peerless that was awesome.

    Either way, you should be okay.
     
  3. AndreasG

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    Isn't the Lennon neck also a bit fatter than the standard one?

    The better electronics might also be a plus...
     
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    I'd take the Lennon.
    I've had both Chinese as well as Peerless Epiphones.
    The Peerless had a nicer paint job but the hardware and electronics were essentially junk. The Lennon model already has that stuff covered with good components.
     
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    Play them both and buy the best one. Toss up at $50 difference.
     
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    I'd go for the Lennon, the pickups will probably sound better and won't need replacing.


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    I have the 1965 Lennon, limited edition ( they made 1,965 instruments) which I purchased new. It has maple and birch ply, and the headstock angle is period correct as well. At the time, it was as close to getting a new '65 Casino without going vintage. Mine is the original burst finish, not the natural "Revolution" version

    see info on the USA collection here: http://epiphonewiki.com/index.php/John_Lennon_Signatures
     
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    All casinos have a 5 ply body
     
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    I would get the Peerless one. I've heard from many sources that the Peerless-made Epis are fantastic. You can always upgrade to Gibson pickups/electronics, but finding a Peerless-made Epi for a good price is rare. Get the Peerless and upgrade the pups and you'd have the best of both worlds and a guitar that may very well rival one of the USA Casino reissues.
     
  10. AndreasG

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    Thanks for the replies. Doing a search here I noticed that most complain that normal P90 pickups won't fit in the Casinos...therefore I think the Lennon might be the better choice. The 50$ difference don't bother me. I can't play none so I have to make the decision blindly...is the Lennon neck thicker? That would be a benefit for me, having big hands.
     
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    ^^ Lennon. Very nice guitar.
     
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    Not sure that's the case, some are 3-ply.


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    Great inputs so far.
    Considering the Perrless...are there sone good aftermarket pickups available for it? I read here that the Casino puckups are shallower and a "normal" P90 won't fit??
    And what about the hardware, especially the bridge?

    Electronics wouldn't be a big problem apart from the installation itself I believe?..so maybe I go with the Peerless since it has the better color basically
     
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    Picked up my natural '07 MIC Casino for $350 off Craigslist (I assume the pups are stock, but not 100% sure), but I can't complain. It sounds fantastic with my Vox AC15.


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  17. OM Flyer

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    Lollar discusses the issues with Casino dogears (and his options for dealing with them) here: http://www.lollarguitars.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=p90-dogear-sizing-notes

    But don't assume you'll need to replace the stock ones. I've had some Epi P-90s that sounded great.

    Electronics/wiring installs on hollowbodies are a huge PITA, because there's no back cavity.
     
  18. AndreasG

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    Thanks. Will for sure leave the guitar stock for a while to see if it needs help. After all I'm not so fancy about spendimg 50% of the guitars worth in new pickups. After all it's a cheap guitar and I'm not thinking thatit will replace my main axes...but it will be for sure a different animal!
     
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    I've had both....go for the Lennon. The 5ply body makes all the difference - the guitar is so much more resonant. The neck is fatter as well.
     
  20. AndreasG

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    Just got a Casino from 2002 from the Peerless factory, sounds really great. I don't think the pickups need replacing, but see te bridge, tailpiece and tuners are junk. What are some upgrade parts ro consider? Especially the bridge, since it moves a bit.
    Might also consider changing the pots, to openit up a little bit soundwise. Better to go with 250 or 500's?
    All in all considering the 450$ it's a great guitar and fun to play through my Marshalls and Super Reverb. Feedback isn't that bad but really great whenthe whole guitar starts vibrating...
     

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