Epiphone, photoflame finish

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  1. GibSG

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    Hi,

    I don' t understand why Epiphone use photoflame on the top of the G400 for example, that' s awful.


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  2. cam.man67

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    Having worked on a number of Epiphone, I can tell you it’s not photoflame. That’s a thin piece of veneer.
     
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  3. eclecticsynergy

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    Yep, not printed. It's veneer.
     
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    I thought that guitar looked lovely actually.
     
  5. GibSG

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    Veneer and photoflame is for hide the poor wood , No mater how you call this .
     
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  7. C-4

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    A lot of Epiphones use veneer tops and backs. I hope no one thinks the wood they see on Epiphones is always solid. If it were, the guitars would be more expensive.
     
  8. jvin248

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    .

    Get a slightly older used one and it won't have the veneer/photo.

    Korean-made are the ones I look for, but my often played SG is a 2005 China built one.

    2015 and newer have improved pickups, but the older ones with a good setup can sound good too.

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  9. big mike

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    It's making a very economical guitar look like it's basis of design.
    If it bugs you, move on to a different model. Nothing to worry about.

    Side note, don't be rude people. Manners matter.
     
  10. mikebat

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    If you were paying $2k for that, it would be an issue.

    In a guitar that sells for $300ish, to complain about the quality of the wood or thickness of a veneer seems like you are stretching it a little.
     
  11. Otter351

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    Everything you said is true, but it's always good to educate buyers. I've had to explain photo tops and veneers many many times to disheartened players. It's even harder explaining the different origins of wood and how it's not the same species of mahogany or ash that they see on premium instruments. The worst is when manufacturers use the name of a wood to describe the finish.
     
  12. big mike

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    Agree.

    I like when fender at least owns the photo flame finish.
    But I also don't know why people should expect anything passed plywood on a 300 buck guitar.

    Does it hold tune and play well enough to enjoy? Worry about materials later.
     
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    What it is "hiding" is different looking wood, not "poor" wood. SGs are traditionally mahogany so they make the cheaper ones from less expensive material and cover it with a veneer to give it the look of mahogany. Its how they make the price point. But a veneer on an SG doesn't work so well due to the bevels.
     
  14. Thumpalumpacus

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    A large segment of the market values handsome grain. Epiphone, and others, cater to that while keeping prices low using these methods.

    Next thing I know, you guys are gonna tell me ES-335s are made from plywood.
     
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  15. customguitars87

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    Solid woods are not that expensive barring the exotic stuff (particularly for manufacturers who buy in bulk) so it's perfectly reasonable to expect alder, mahogany, etc. on a $300 guitar (and in fact there are tons of sub-$300 guitars with all those woods), but I definitely agree that this is a silly thing to gripe about on a cheaper instrument. There's something for everyone, if you don't like how the veneers on these guitars look just buy another one. Plenty of solid finish Epi SGs available, and lots from other brands :).
     
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    Aren't custom shops Strats 3 pieces covered in poly?
     
  17. Mr Fingers

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    Yes, veneered tops get talked about in the same terms as solid wood thick tops, and it confuses people. It's largely deliberate because noting's easier than to include the word veneer prominently, but that rarely happens. I dislike veneer very much, and would easily prefer to have the real body wood, multipieced and all, than a cheesy veneer, but for many people, it's about appearance, not reality.
     
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    mmm... reminds me of my end table from college apartment days. It looked great for a few months, but that's where beer goes on top of. In the age old battle of beer vs veneer... beer wins.
     
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    Wood veneer is ok...photo top, not so much...
     
  20. Yamaha 350

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    Poor wood? Wood is wood. Their is no difference imop. It is also not a lowere grade imop. It has set in the factory warhouse a shorter time. Mahogany with a veneer is still mahogany.o_O And remember I do not own a Epiphone or like most current Epiphones. I love vintage Epiphone's 60's through the 1980's.o_O
     

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