Eric Johnson's new pedalboard, no rats nest no more!

Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by Blix, Feb 23, 2017.

  1. weallplaysynth

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    $1,000 for a power cable is pretty cheap. :)

    I'm with you on the blind tests. I mentioned them in my first post on this thread.

    But, in their absence, I think outright dismissal isn't really called for. A lot of people thought the world was flat. Galileo knew better. Who is to say EJ doesn't hear better than 99.9% of TGPers? He's already a musical outlier in one capacity, is it such a stretch to think he could be one in another?
     
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  2. RACKDOCTOR

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    The Belle Epochs are running at 9V. He told me he did not like the sound of them at 18. The Echorec is running at 12V. Running the Echorec at 9V it is a bit brighter, at 12V it is fuller with more headroom.
     
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    Well... I am just ordering one to start with for now! LOL
     
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  5. Phase45child

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    Finally, after years of saying it and being told I was crazy, proof that Eric runs a TS before his Fuzz Face haha
     
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    Very nice work. However, I'm wondering why there's no Turbo Tuner. In regards to all of the delays, didn't Mike Fuller say in his advertising years ago that EJ was going to get one of the first SSTEs?
     
  7. huevos

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    Huh? Is the cable that's going from the output FF to the input of the TS doing some kind of reversed pedal directional cable electron firehoop voodoo magic?
     
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  8. cerebralpaul

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    FF output goes to wah input
     
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    I've thought EJ ran a TS into his Fuzz Face for ages, now you seemed to have confirmed it and I was satisfied...but on closer inspection of the third picture it really looks like the output lead from the Fuzz Face runs into the input of the TS808....

    Am I seeing things or is the wiring not clear in the pictures? @RACKDOCTOR
     
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  10. huevos

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    No, FF out goes to TS in.

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  11. stinkfoot

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    I put my glasses on and tried to follow the wires. @RACKDOCTOR can probably put me right, if I've missed anything :) Anyway, from the interface, the main input cable is a little hard to follow, since the point where it joins the bundled cables is obscured by the plugs carrying the L/R from the chorus, but we do know that it ends up at the input of the first A/B box (the left one). From there you can follow the lead chain as it loops to the left and then back to the right, under the the wah and to its input. From the wah output it joins the leftmost cable tie and goes under the Tube Driver to its input. From the TD there's a wire to the "LEAD" Belle Epoch, and from there back to the interface for the "LEAD" output.

    The Dirty Rhythm chain starts at the second A/B box (jack labeled "DR"), and passes under the fuzz face to the FF input. From the FF output it goes to the TS-808 input, and from there to the interface (there's an untied wire above the TS-808 footswitch that ends up right at the top end of the interface) for the MXR flanger loop. From the loop return jack (top end, lower jack) the wire goes underneath the Tube Driver to the input of the "DR" Belle Epoch. From its output, the signal goes back to the interface to become the "DR" output.

    The clean chain starts at the second A/B (jack labeled "RHY"), loops up and to the left, and back down to the loop box for the DMM. From there it goes to the Echorec and to the TC chorus. From there, two wires carry the L/R signals back to the interface (L/R outputs for the Rhythm chain).

    There's some really neat wiring and cable bundling going on there, I must say. I've built a few boards with similar routing, and know that the only way to get those cable tie fasteners to line up just so, with just the right number of cables tied to them, can only be achieved by planning everything out in detail before the first wire is laid out. Slapping the pedals down and adding cable ties as you go will not achieve this kind of result. Let's just say that I learned that the hard way, and leave it at that :D
     
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  12. RACKDOCTOR

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    We changed the order after Eric played thru it. So in the pic the Fuzz is before the 808. I am also adding a loop box for the TS-808 so he can switch the pedal in and out and use the buffer or not with the Fuzz. When he uses the 808 before the Fuzz with the 808 off, he backs the Fuzz gain way down. He does not use the Fuzz and 808 on at the same time.
     
  13. mentoneman

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    no dynacomp huh? i know he gave doyle dykes a keeley comp so i wonder if he is still experimenting with comp/no comp on the board....
    did you have a chance to show him the prescription fuzz or your personal rig for that matter? you have some mighty fine clean tones yourself which i'm sure ej would be right at home with as a backup rig!


    and just curious but have you had a chance to play through landau's full rig with the sig fender and the dumble super?
     
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    The power strip made me chuckle
    Cool board though
     
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    Really?
    Forgot to read the first part of the thread? Lol
     
  16. johnh

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    Best post I've read in months. Thanks.

    Oh, and +1!
     
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    Just because one guy plays guitar well, and another guy can cut wires to certain lengths, doesn't make them an authority on electronics or signal flow through a cable. Heck, "good at guitar" doesn't equal "good at hearing". I'm not bashing Eric's guitar skills, but I am questioning his hearing. Just like I would anyone who makes such a wacky claim.

    No, it's what we do on a forum dedicated to gear and music. Because even pros are wrong about stuff like this. All the time.

    I'm not faulting the professional pedal displacement specialist here, he's just doing what his client wants. But Eric is way off base here, it's just confirmation bias with no proper testing. And "I'm certain I can hear the difference" is not proper testing.

    Human hearing is often misled, and our ears can't be trusted when our other senses are involved. This is a commonly known and tested fact. Therefore, doubting what someone claims to hear isn't rude, arrogant, or belittling. It's science, it's the truth behind gear, music, and hearing.

    But hey, all you have to do to prove I'm wrong and Eric is right, is point me in the direction of a properly done blind test. Until then, it's a really foolish idea. I mean, laughably silly :)
     
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  18. erksin

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    I'm willing to bet Eric could give a rat's what anybody thinks. If he hears it, that's all that matters.
     
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  19. Resonance7

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    I agree with the start of your first paragraph. But...


    Just because 'science' hasn't observed measurable changes, doesn't mean they don't exist.

    Furthermore (and to what also seems to hold your biased opinion 'back'),

    Just because YOU [generally speaking] can't notice a difference, doesn't mean one isn't occurring.
     
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    If you don't have good hearing you're not gonna be a good guitarist especially one like Eric Johnson. EJ goes way beyond chops. I can't believe I'm responding to this in the first place :roll
     
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