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Eventide H3000D/SE for guitar?

AXEnGEAR4J

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I bought a Eventide H3000D/SE several years that was basically new in the box. I just ordered an eprom upgrade that will bring it up to H3500B-DFX algorithms/presets which is all the current presets available.

I now need some guidance on how to set up this Eventide "Stereo" unit to use with guitar.


 

Rex Anderson

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A cool way would be a Larry Carlton approach.

Standard guitar to amp. Mic speaker cab (Shure 57 etc), go into small mixing console (A+H, Mackie etc) for mic preamp, EQ. Use aux sends to feed input of Eventide. Out of Eventide back to mixer line inputs. Mix mic and FX to taste. Line out of mixer to 2 powered speakers (QSC, Mackie etc). Blend guitar amp level with level of powered speakers.
 

peterdjp

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You could do stereo or a W/D/W setup

Do you have two amps? Do you have a stereo power amp and two more cabs?

I run a stereo rig with 2290 and pcm 80, roland SDX-330
Sounds great.

If you go stereo the h3000 will benefit from some type of mixer. A single space line mixer is the standard.

If you just want to use it in a home recording setup run it in the send/return of your audio interface.

Tell us more about what gear you have how you would like to use it.



here's some info
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/1336479

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/264293

http://www.hugeracksinc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=91263&hilit=stereo+setup

http://www.rjmmusic.com/wp/tag/guitar-rigs/

http://www.marklcustom.com/products/line-mixers/dual-stereo-line-mixer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUMo0IOmyvA
 
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AXEnGEAR4J

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A cool way would be a Larry Carlton approach.

Standard guitar to amp. Mic speaker cab (Shure 57 etc), go into small mixing console (A+H, Mackie etc) for mic preamp, EQ. Use aux sends to feed input of Eventide. Out of Eventide back to mixer line inputs. Mix mic and FX to taste. Line out of mixer to 2 powered speakers (QSC, Mackie etc). Blend guitar amp level with level of powered speakers.


That is an interesting and practical approach.

I'm using non rack mounted amps and vintage amps without effects loops too and would lover to run stereo
 
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Rex Anderson

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The first link in peterdjp's post shows a few different ways of doing the w/d/w setup.

I think the wet speakers sound better if they are FRFR (full range flat response) PA type speakers rather than guitar amp speaker cabinets, thus my recommendation for the Larry Carlton setup. He is using JBL EON's. Lot's of options for those, most seem to be using QSC K12's now. Atomic is another big name. Once you invest in a rig like this, you can add any number of line level FX boxes depending on the number of channels your mixer has for line inputs (returns). Even if you only have a few aux send channels, you can split them with "Y" cables to feed inputs of other devices.
 

peterdjp

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I'm using non rack mounted amps and vintage amps without effects loops too and would lover to run stereo
With vintage amps without effect loops the best bet would be to go W/D/W

You take a feed from the dry amp at the speakers then that line level signal feeds the H3000 then you go out to a stereo power amp and into two wet cabs for the stereo FX, or you can use two more amps for the wet fx, or two powered PA type speakers like LC.

Search the w/d/w threads.



Here's a video that lets you hear what an eventide sounds like in a w/d/w setup.

 
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AXEnGEAR4J

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With vintage amps without effect loops the best bet would be to go W/D/W

You take a feed from the dry amp at the speakers then that line level signal feeds the H3000 then you go out to a stereo power amp and into two wet cabs for the stereo FX, or you can use two more amps for the wet fx, or two powered PA type speakers like LC.

Search the w/d/w threads.



Here's a video that lets you hear what an eventide sounds like in a w/d/w setup.

I'm just trying to keep it out of PA amps, I guess I should see how some of the artist are using them live
 

Chrome Dinette

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http://web.eventide.com/kbaudio/article.php?id=030

second one : how to change the jumpers...there are jumpers inside the unit so that you can change the input levels / setting from line to instrument level...again, you have to do this...read this article....also mucho important

http://web.eventide.com/kbaudio/article.php?id=020
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Instrument level is not available, just +4 and -10(also known as "consumer" level, what cd players use).

That doesn't matter anyway, since almost no one is going to plug right into the front of the thing. These are typically used in an effects loop or with a mixer as suggested elsewhere in the thread.
 

AXEnGEAR4J

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hey axe

you MUST check out these three "articles" available from the Eventide website...there are a few quirks with the H3000 that you need to be aware of before you can really integrate it correctly into a "modern" rig...

first one : the H3000 only has XLR outputs, but unlike most XLR configurations, the H3000 series #3 pin is hot ( usually it is the #2 pin )....read this link...it will explain how to correctly make your own XLR to 1/4" unbalanced jacks - mucho important

http://web.eventide.com/kbaudio/article.php?id=030

second one : how to change the jumpers...there are jumpers inside the unit so that you can change the input levels / setting from line to instrument level...again, you have to do this...read this article....also mucho important

http://web.eventide.com/kbaudio/article.php?id=020

and lastly, a general bit of advice from eventide as to how to successfully integrate the H3000 series into your guitar rig...read this...

http://web.eventide.com/kbaudio/article.php?id=100

good luck !
I greatly appreciate the input and bringing this to my attention, I remember now reading and hearing about the #3 pin being hot. It appears one of the best way maybe for me is to run a mixer in front.
 






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