EVH 1984 tone with JTM45 possible?

[Tubes and Strings]

I really dig Eddie's tone on the 1984 album. Anyone succeeded at dialing that in with a JTM45ish amp? Or, does it require something different?

 

[airwarrior]

You might be able to get there with a boost. I think a lot of it lies in playing style and technique though.

 

[Tubes and Strings]

I doubt that seriously.. I don't think he was using pedals to get that tone...

 

[airwarrior]

Well, he actually was using pedals at the time (Phasers), and he wasn't using a JTM45 either.

I was just saying that you may be able to push a JTM45 into that territory by using a boost, but that most of the sound lies in Eddies playing style.

 

[Tubes and Strings]

I hear you. I was talking about the nature of the overdrive not being from a pedal, but from the amp. First album was different in that regard, but after that it sounds like power tube distortion to me.

At least that's what I think I hear... Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I'm here to learn, not act knowledgeable..

Well, he actually was using pedals at the time (Phasers), and he wasn't using a JTM45 either.

I was just saying that you may be able to push a JTM45 into that territory by using a boost, but that most of the sound lies in Eddies playing style.

 

[big mike]

Nope.

Way wrong almost everything. The JTM is essentially a 'bass' spec amp. It's thicker. The filtering and capacitor values are going to be quite different. Plus if its running KT66's, the output section overdrive characterist is going to be far too different.

I had a JTM45 clone with EL34's hopeing I'd get some of that type of tone. Nope. couldn't get there. It's just too different IMO.

 

[Tubes and Strings]

I've got a kit amp I'm thinking of reworking to be more in line with that EVH tone. It's the Egnater seminar amp that is (mostly) a JTM45 circuit. I'd love to have suggestions for a circuit (as simple as possibe given my hobbyist expertise) that can nail that sound.

 

[big mike]

I dunno. I really think you need a 100 watter.

 

[SgtThump]

His tone on the 1984 album sure is cool. Pretty unique, me thinks.

 

[blastastick]

Nope.

 

[jcs]

hmm, you need a solid state rectifier,more filtering and some sylvania big bottle 6ca7 power tubes added to that circuit which will make it closer to a plexi 50.

i agree that probably isnt the amp to use for the 1984 sound.

also,lets not forget eddie did use eq pedals in the early days and there were several guitars used as well.

 

[Tubes and Strings]

How do I talk to David? Is he a member here? An amp builder?

Thanks.

Talk to David Bray. He recently built me a JTM45 that's tricked out to get some killer VH tones.

peace
-jeff

 

[Tubes and Strings]

Never mind. I just found his website.

How do I talk to David? Is he a member here? An amp builder?

Thanks.

 

[soldano16]

I found a pretty big difference between my JTM45 and my JMP's. Almost as different as they are the same.

 

[tfaith08]

Ive tried to get that tone from marshalls, peaveys, mesas, fender, krank, and to be honest, the closest was the cheapest. Even the stock marshalls didnt really sound too much like his tone to me. With anything less than a hot rodded marshall, its like trying to make chicken salad out of chicken ****. The closest ive ever gotten was a RG100 raven 2x12 with a jackson DKMG and a 59' model seymour duncan in the bridge. For the money you'll probably put into the amp getting what you want, you can buy the raven. its only 300 from guitar center, and it really does sound amazing. After that, throw a 59' in the bridge position on your guitar. You should have it. depending on the guitar, get an eq. Heck, dont take my word for it, go check it out at guitar center. But there is one thing. You may get the tone, but you probably wont be able to replicate the song. What everybody says about your technique is very very true. it can make or break it