EVH 5150 thoughts

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  1. Paul Bateman

    Paul Bateman Member

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    Hi everyone.

    I thought i would post my findings on this amp now that i have had it for a couple of months.

    All my opinions are based on using an Ibanez PGM301 and a Charvel San Dimas.

    The first one i had delivered was broke so i have gigged the current one for 3 months before commenting on it. Some of my views and issues will be accompanied by video but watching them is not essential as i would rather do a sincere review than go fishing for youtube views.

    So......the head and 2x12 cab both come well packaged with all the correct leads and manuals (this is actually a rare thing in my experience). Both the head and cab are built like tanks. The tolex is very tidy and nicely finished in the corners and all the fittings are tight. The only problem i could find here was the handles on both the head and cab are too tight and when they get cold its hard to get your hand into the handle to pull it up. Not too much of a big deal but a bit annoying.

    Turning the amp on and the first thing that is different to any other amp is the power and standby being on the back. Some people hate this but its not to much of a big deal so i'm not complaining there.

    On to the clean channel. This channel is very good at both home and gig volume. The first gig i took it to i was instantly happy. We started the first set with 'i feel fine' (beatles) and i was able to get a very bold clean sound with the gain and mids up but still retain clarity without getting messy. The amp has tons of clean headroom and when we moved forward in the gig i was able to get chilli peppers, the killers, del shannon, roy obbison and more with total ease. This channel is very easy to shape and a god send for someone like me that plays in a wedding/function band.

    On to the blue channel. Again, good at both gig and home volume. The blue channel tends to saturate more at low volumes and at home i use it (other than recording) to play van halen, obviously, and other 80's - early 90's stuff. The best amp i had ever owned for this level of gain in the past was the mesa express but this amp kills it and is by far the best rock tone i have ever found. My best results have been tones like 'pornograffitti' (extreme), 'van halen II' and surprisingly 'no rest for the wicked' (ozzy). It sounds nothing like a marshall contrary to popular belief and sounds more like a bogner. I played some steve vai covers from the era he used a bognor and got very close.
    At gig volume this channel continues to shine but becomes a bit clearer and harder sounding thus moving some of the higher gain examples i mentioned (pornograffitti) onto the red channel.

    A problem now arrises. The clean and blue channels share a volume control and don't balance out at home or at gig volume. This is the biggest problem with this amp and if the amp did not sound so good i would bail out here. I have explained the situation and found some solutions to the problem in this video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyYEVb5zTo8

    On to the red channel. I have never heard this amount of gain before. Its totally mental and my first impression was that it was too much but if you are modest with the gain and presence knobs this channel is very musical. It nails pretty much any metal tone you could want easily but its best quality is the lead tone. Its perfect for Boosting into lead from the blue channel. The transition from blue to red sounds very natural. I can see why satchel from steel panther uses these amps. Most amps get a bit squishy for leads when you have lots of gain but this channel stays very 'mid' focused and musical.

    As i mentioned above, i have been gigging this amp for a couple of months now and had no problems at all. Its easily as good quality as any mesa i have ever owned.
    The cab sounds great and its nice having a cab without V-30's for a change. The stock H30's serve the amp very well.

    Anyway that hasn't stopped me trying other speakers so i will post all the speakers i have matched with this amp and like i said its entirely up to you if you watch. It seems worthwhile posting them for owners or potential owners of this amp
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7kEpSoW-bM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12lXMmU73Bo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr8ZiQDxznU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo1z_ndTQ3w
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IOHz6g5lfw
     
  2. JYD

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    Cool review, man. I'm now feeling some regret for selling mine, but can always get one used at a good price. They are great amps at the price point and a lot of fun to play.
     
  3. Paul Bateman

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    Thanks mate :)

    I've noticed that they are going pretty cheap second hand. I'm thinking about getting the 100w head now so i can have the independent eq and volume for the green and blue channels. The volume jump between green and blue is my only real gripe with this amp
     
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    That was a really excellent set of YT vids, man.

    To my ears, the amp sounds best with the V30s (and I run mine through a PPC412, in fact), but I also really liked the Private Jacks.

    Again, nicely done, and thanks.
     
  5. Paul Bateman

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    Thanks for watching :)

    I agree the v-30' s do sound very good with this amp. The only problem I have with the v-30 is that I have used it too much over the years hence the reason the stock cab was a nice refresher. It weird..... I love the v-30 but don't wanna feel dependant on it lol.

    The videos highlight the differances really accurately between the different speakers and that's why I have carried on making them but from what I hear in the room, The best rival for the v-30 has been the creamback m65 or the wgs veteran 30.
     
  6. Paul Bateman

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    Oh..... Also I love the Orange cabs. I tried the evh head with my orange 1x12 ( bought it with the th30 head) and it sounded amazing. I was wondering how the 4x12 would sound so nice to hear good results :)
     
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    Thx for a great review! You have made some excellent observations on the amp.

    I had the 50W head and cab a few years back when they were made in Vietnam. Mine developed a catastrophic failure and was sent back to Fender. I don't know what happened to it after that.

    I picked up the 2x12 version in the late summer last year and really liked the amp with the Greenbacks. I returned it though as my back wouldn't take it any longer.

    These days I have my eyes on one of the Stealth heads but I'm still deciding on that one.

    Either way, you can't go wrong with this amp!
     
  8. _amass

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    Awesome review! I own the 50w version and I'm running it through 2 Orange PPC112's.

    It gets better... I know there's quite a bit of hate for the modeling stuff on this forum, but I've found the perfect combination. I'm running a Pod HD500 via the 4CM and MIDI, it's simply amazing. I have the Pod programmed to switch the channels on my amp while switching patches on the Pod. It's absolutely perfect. It even levels out the volume differences between 1 & 2 ;)

    The only gripe I have about this amp is the weight haha. A little on the heavy side for me, but I guess ya gotta make some sacrifices for amazing tone.
     
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    Amass, Im running the 50 watt with 2 ppc 112s as well. very happy with the sound, as for the weight its not awful for a 50 watt head, its manageable. I just ordered the peavey 6505 20 watt as a little variety and less size and weight, well see how it is when theyre available in a few months....
     
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    That's so weird, I was looking into getting that as well haha!


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  11. Paul Bateman

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    Glad to hear the pod also works for the volume jump issue. It really is the thorn in this amps side

    I have heard lots of bad things about the Vietnam made 5150. Perhaps the first one they sent me was the Vietnam version because that died after about 4 mins lol. Luckily the current one has no issues.

    I do love the evh 2x12 cab. Like I said the g12h 30 makes a nice change but I think if someone was to ask me what the best cab for this amp is, I would suggest the Orange cabs
     
  12. buddy62

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    Great review/Vids, thanks OP! Dig the V-30 for sure! - Been wanting to get me another evh as I used to have the 100w and really been looking for another amp that can do the "Blue" channel at lower vols.

    Also fwiw while doing some research awhile back regarding the vol jump issues I found that voodoo amps has some mods that help with this.

    http://www.voodooamps.com/home/Modi...nufacturePage/EVHMods/tabid/1130/Default.aspx
     
  13. Paul Bateman

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    Thanks for the link. I will read into it now.

    I just noticed that Boss have released a stomp box looper (appeared at this years namm) with midi. If it has an inbuilt buffer that can be set on clean patches for a boost then that might be worth a look.......assuming its transparent enough
     
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    Nice video man! You explained something that always confused me about setting presets and wasnt in the manual. It drove me nuts! !

    It would always default back to green (if I was trying to set a blue or red channel) and I didnt know you had to press it AGAIN. Eventually I got it to work but never knew why.

    Not very intuitive.
     
  15. Paul Bateman

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    No its not very intuitive. For some reason 'midi' seems to be last thing amp and effects companies want to explain in detail.....yet its one of the most useful features.

    None of the amp of effect companies have bothered to put a video on their youtube channels explaining how to set it all up......not one of them.

    Its the poor customer support we have come to expect within the guitar world
     
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    Word. How strange. Thanks for the vid. You should be hired by them.
     
  17. realdealblues

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    I see your thoughts were similar to mine. I've stuck with the 100w head because of the volume jump and shared EQ. I use the 100w with the EVH 2x12 Cab for small gigs and the EVH 4x12 for larger ones. The stock speakers in the 2x12 sounded ok, but I replaced them with the Creamback 65 speakers for better power handling. I tried Vintage 30's with the amp but I must be in the minority because I didn't dig the tone at all. I still prefer the overall tone of the EVH Greenback speakers that are in the 4x12, but the Creambacks obviously allow for more power handling and are similar in characteristics.
     
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    Great review, and I share most of those sentiments with my 100w.

    FJA and Voodoo Amps can mod the amp to have concentric gain and volume knobs, allowing for independent control over channels 1 and 2. If they came stock with this I'd have traded my 100w in for the 50w years ago.
     
  19. Paul Bateman

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    I've just been looking at the 100w head again and i think i'm gonna order one next month. The independent presence controls would be quite handy too.

    I agree with you on the Creamback over the V-30. If i were to change the stock speakers out of the 2x12, it would be for the Creamback M. I was not too keen on the H magnet Creamback though.

    Next time i pick up speakers i will get the EVH and the Lynchback to try :)
     
  20. Rajiv Thapa

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    Off topic but I am really desperate for help. The thing is that, I f**d up my amp by connecting to a higher voltage PS. Actually I had it imported from USA to my place and was unaware of the voltage difference as it was my first purchase. In excitement I plugged in to my power source instantly and fried up the fuse with 220v. However there was a brief hum before the fuse blew off. Now, I have purchased a step-down transformer and replaced the fuse but again the problem is that the amp is completely dead. There is a very faint hum inside the amp head when powering up and there is no pilot light.
    It would be really awesome if somebody could help me out. It is really hard to get a good tech nearby my place as it is far from town, I would really appreciate your solutions. Thanks!!
     

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