Explain the reasoning behind the Tele Custom to me

dconeill

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Maybe people like the sound of the new wide range humbuckers
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Does Fender build all their pickups in reissue guitars to vintage specs?
I don't think Fender calls these new pickups "new wide range humbuckers". I didn't see any place where they claimed they were recreations in any way of the 1970s "wide range humbuckers"; though I did see somewhere that they staggered the polepieces in a cosmetic nod to the 70s pickups.

I believe Fender calls these "Shawbuckers".

They didn't give this guitar the big 70s Strat headstock, either; so it's pretty clear that they weren't trying to recreate the 70s Tele Deluxe guitar.
 

mtmartin71

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Tele Customs, and HSS Strats for that matter, have always been a rathole for me. I like the way they look, but I was never able to find my sounds in them and spent a lot of time and money chasing. I prefer HH guitars, namely Les Pauls, and get my change of pace from a standard Tele and a Firebird with P90s. I guess if the Fender shape and scale is your guitar north star, then I think playing around with these type of Frankenstein creations is a way to get some other sounds and a unique look.
 

Digidog

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It may be astonishing to you, but the reason they don't make the wide range humbuckers like they used to is that CuNiFe magnets aren't available anymore. At the time, Fender and Seth Lover had to create a humbucker that didn't infringe on Gibson's patent so they did things differently for a reason. Now they don't have to, plus CuNiFe isn't available to use anymore. Here's a great article on the subject:

https://reverb.com/news/dont-fence-me-in-the-fender-wide-range-humbucker-family
But when Fender recreates some famous guitarist's guitar, they brag and boast about how exact and truthful they are in doing so. I find it hard to believe that a company the size of Fender couldn't bring some metal industry to produce CuNiFe bars for a reasonable price, so there must be some other explanation to this. Lazy cost cutting maybe?

Guitar companies go to great lengths to procure woods for their manufacture, so that they - given all their authenticity boasting - don't do the same on pickup magnet alloys, is to me astonishing.
 

RolandKorg

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I pictured my wife before we got married... I dunno
I picture your wife after you got married — ohhhh!!
Hickory, dickory, doc---

What Ron Kirn said might be true. Might also be true that some artist asked for it, they made it, and decided maybe it both broadened the product range and that other people might find affection for it. IMO, it's a good thing when people adapt and repurpose a 'standard.' That's the beginning of innovation. Maybe the problem is only that it's called a "Telecaster." If they had made up a separate name for it, boom—no contrived 'controversy.'
 

deadbeat son

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I don't think Fender calls these new pickups "new wide range humbuckers". I didn't see any place where they claimed they were recreations in any way of the 1970s "wide range humbuckers"; though I did see somewhere that they staggered the polepieces in a cosmetic nod to the 70s pickups.

I believe Fender calls these "Shawbuckers".

They didn't give this guitar the big 70s Strat headstock, either; so it's pretty clear that they weren't trying to recreate the 70s Tele Deluxe guitar.
You're not talking about the same guitar as most others in this thread. The '72 Custom, the '72 Deluxe, and the '72 Thinline all have what Fender calls "Fender Wide Range humbucking" pickups. True to the originals, the '72 Deluxe has the large headstock while the Custom and Thinline do not.

The Shawbucker equipped guitars are totally different models, and are named differently.

Source:
 

fr8_trane

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The whole humbuggy in the neck thing never seemed practical to me. Maybe I need to play one? What is the idea here? Stock Tele rhythm sounds in the bridge with throaty lead sounds from the neck?
Throaty? More like muddy.

I don't get it either. The perfect neck pickup for a tele is the Strat neck pickup. Or maybe a P90... or a filtertron if you really want a dual coil. But definitely not a mudbucker.
 

Digidog

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What I've learned is you shouldn't trust Fender when it comes to period-correct Fender specs.
I don't either.

But I must listen to their boasting about it, and given that: I think they should be more consientious about such a seemingly appreciated thing as the wide range humbucker. It appears dull to brag about period correct, hand wound single coils, when at the same time selling a non-replica as a replica of one very appreciated design.

I would be an easy fix for them.
 

Sirloin

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here's how it works... we make the Telecaster... we sell a boat load of 'em... but eventually the market softens.. so the Suits get together and ask, "What can we do to get sales up on the telecaster".. someone from Marketing with a Masters in BS, says, "lets call it the Telecaster Deluxe, and change 15 cents worth of electronics... " and he got promoted...

and that's the way it is.. in large manufacturing, things either are increasing or slipping away, there is no status quo..

rk
you forgot "...and put a really ugly pickgaurd on it"
 

Musicroom

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Play one with a SD 59 in the neck. Sounds too good to explain. I have an older (73) thinline with a 59n / PGb. Bliss...

I buy and sell guitars all the time. Keep some - love some. Nothing ever sounds better than this one.
 

mvsr990

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I've always thought the opposite would be more useful for me, like the Lace Sensor Telecaster Plus but with traditional-style pickups.
 

Sampler

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From the Link posted above regarding current issue WRHB pickups:

The Modern Wide Range humbucking pickups on this guitar expertly evoke the look of the famous Fender pickup design of the early 1970s, as used on original-era Telecaster Thinline, Telecaster Custom and Telecaster Deluxe models.”

...sounds like all they could reproduce was the “look” of the pickup, and the lawyers (aka fun police) squashed any bragging about how authentic the pickup is. Doesn’t sound all that boastful to me....expertly evoking a look can’t be all that hard.
 

67blackcherry

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And...as much as I love Keith and as much as I love the Tele, I just never did like the Tele Custom; that and the Thinline are the only incarnations that I've never owned and probably never will but to each his own.
How boring would life and music be if we all liked the same thing?
 

cadduc

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the hb, and hollow body versions are not what I think of when I hear telecaster custom,
I think of the prior version, a telecaster with a sunburst finish and pearloid binding and a tortoise shell pick guard, and the regular pick ups
like ray davies used in the kinks
I did not like the newer versions
 

mvsr990

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...sounds like all they could reproduce was the “look” of the pickup, and the lawyers (aka fun police) squashed any bragging about how authentic the pickup is. Doesn’t sound all that boastful to me....expertly evoking a look can’t be all that hard.
It's all but impossible to reproduce the pickups authentically because you can't get Cunife alloy in threaded rods (Telenator was doing it but I think they had to do the threading in-house and it was a PITA).
 




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