Fat Neck 335's. How do you string them with such short tuning pegs?

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  1. jjboogie

    jjboogie Supporting Member

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    I am getting it done but I get a little worried not being able to get more even wraps because the hole for the strings is so stinking low. What's up with that? How do you guys with 335 fat necks deal with it?
     
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    stevieboy Clouds yell at me Gold Supporting Member

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    I've never heard of this--but of course I've missed a lot of things! Are you talking about the specific model that was the fat neck version of the production model a few years ago? Or any 335 with a fat neck?
     
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    does not compute. What's neck thickness got to do with the tuners? You mean even the headstock is thicker?

    I typically only wind the string around once. You don't need any more than that, in fact that's bad.
     
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    I figure that's what he means. It's not that the headstock is thicker, it's that the "vintage correct" tuners just have fairly short shafts.

    Like you say, more windings is not better; it's often worse. Just do the wrapover/lock on the first five, and do one over/one under on the sixth, and you'll be good.
     
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    AGREED!
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    Yeah use a locking method, the one above is a new one to me, I have been using another common method where you put the string through, leave few inches of slack and then wrap the string around and under like this:
     
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    I don't string my 335 any differently. Never had any issues.
     
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    A short shaft brings the string in to the post at a lower point and this increases the break angle behind the nut. I find this converts an ordinary nut with so so nut slots into one that works well and converts a nicely done nut into a work of art - in terms of intonation and tuning stability.

    Imagine you are fabricating a spring from music wire. You only want as many winds as you have room for easily - excess is not good IMO:

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  9. jjboogie

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    Yes I am speaking of the Fat Neck 335 that was made starting in 2008 for a few years in Memphis. The hole for the strings is so low to the headstock. Just not used to that and what to find the best method to string them so they stay in tune.
     
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    This is the way!
     
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    I'll give it a shot
     
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    Yeah I think my Nashville 335 59 has low tuners as well..been in the case so long I forget.
     
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    You may find that you can't get the low E to work with this method, unless you use a pretty light string (0.38 or 0.40, perhaps). As I said, I use it for the first five strings, then for the sixth I just pull through, wind the first wrap above the protrusion, and then one more wrap below it. This puts a little lateral force on the string.
     
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    I hate short tuning posts/thick headstocks. It is a PITA for the fat low strings.
     
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    The locking method is great until you need to take the string off. It's a pain in the ass, especially trying to quickly replace a broken one at a gig.
     
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    Ahh! Hadn't thought of that.
     
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    I've been stringing like this for many years, and never had a problem with the low E, which is usually a .46 or .52 for me. I just kind of hold the excess string tight for that first wrap until it catches.
     
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    Right on!
     
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    Low string post holes are common these days. When I string, I put the string thru the hole straight, pull it back the width of 2-3 fingers, and start winding. No lock, and never a problem. Fatter strings require pulling back only 2 fingers worth. Thinner strings can use 3. Stable and easy to install/remove.
     

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