Fender Custom Shop not making friends with Nels Cline

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  1. John Hurtt

    John Hurtt Silver Supporting Member

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    LOL...they don't look the same. Fender can do perfect copies when they want. That's just a reliced guitar. You can't even convince the handful of people on this thread it's a copy...let alone "everybody"...
     
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  2. 74vibrolux

    74vibrolux Silver Supporting Member

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    He probably got it from Watt sometime back in the mid-90s. He's really a spectacularly diverse player and I love his work with Mike Watt on Contemplating the Engine Room and Ballhog/Tugboat. Though his new Nels Cline 4 album is one of my favorite things he's done.
     
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    Exactly. Like he said, they could have contacted him.
     
  4. Seth L

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    You're suffering from denial. It's obviously a copy.
     
  5. Aaron Brasket

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    Some of the people criticizing Nels should do a google search on "Watt Jazzmaster". Its a famous guitar - there is a lot of easy to find press on it. Its named after Mike Watt of The Minutemen the previous owner of the guitar. I am sure that is part of the reason Nels is annoyed - the guitar has a long history on its own that Fender does not own or acknowledge.
     
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  6. Seth L

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    I can tell.
     
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    Maybe a customer ordered it that way. Does that mean with every order, Fender has to look at all unsigned artists and see if it's even remotely similar to a guitar they use? Then what? Do they ask permission? Christ it's not intellectual property. It's a guitar.
     
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  8. Seth L

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    All Cline asked for was a heads up. That doesn't seem like a lot to ask.
     
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    For the record I'm not trying to be critical. All I'm saying is that I'm not sure how many people, whether musicians or not, actually know who Nels Cline is, or what the market for a Nels Cline looking Jazzmaster, "authorized" or not, would be. He's a great, great player but I only learned about him from Wilco, and fwiw I'm not familiar with Watt or The Minutemen, either, nor the history of that guitar....others here may be...

    Welcome to TGP btw...
     
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    Actually, you can't. You've never worked with me professionally. But nice try. Unfortunately childish internet burns like yours don't phase me.
     
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    "Childish Internet Burns"......good band name....
     
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    Maybe it wasn't top of mind for Fender, hence the reason he doesn't have a sig model anyway.

    I know a lot of good guitar players with unique instruments. Does that mean if I order something from any manufacturer they're obligated to contact any artist if my order is even remotely similar?
     
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    That's just funny right there. \m/
     
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    A Nels signature model would absolutely sell. J Mascis and Johnny Marr have the history but Wilco’s a bigger act over the last 20 years and the fanbase is largely 30-50 year old white collar workers, ie people with some disposable income.
     
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  15. Seth L

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    Or maybe they don't give a hoot? Watch that NAMM video and you'll get the idea.
     
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    my impression of Nels is that he's a really sweet and kind guy, from the little bit i've worked w/ him (i was one of the music directors at a jazz club he's played at a bunch).
    he is neither childish, nor a prick.
     
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  17. 74vibrolux

    74vibrolux Silver Supporting Member

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    A little taste of his work with Watt.


    And shame on you for not knowing The Minutemen!!! ;)
    For real. Dig into that ****. It'll blow your mind.
     
  18. big mike

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    Yeah they got blackie, Lenny, #1 and Rory’s strat dead nuts but they missed on this?

    Homage? Certainly.
    Big deal? No.
    Respect for Wilco...though it’s not my bag, and I tried

    But this is a little silly.
     
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    If J Mascis has one, Nels definitely should.
     
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    It was a publicity stunt at best or an out of control ego at worse.
     
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