Discussion in 'Guitars in General' started by mvsr990, Jan 30, 2019.
I’d say Elvis Costello deserves one more and I don’t particularly like his music either.
Publicity stunt? Do you think Cline organized a public Fender bonfire or something?
They already did that.
Elvis had a signature already.
The poo brown ‘70s stain style didn’t help sales, though.
This is a very interesting point.
This is nothing compared to the average Grateful Dead thread!
Calling someone you know nothing about a childish prick is very professional.
Aside from Watt and his Jag, I’m mostly familiar with his Bilt guitars, which are not clones.
Nice try, but I'm not trying to be professional here. I'm stating my opinions based on his social media post. That kind of post is passive-aggressive, attention-seeking, and yes. The actions of a childish prick.
That's cool. And I'm sure he's super talented as well.
But since I have zero exposure to that side, I'm not commenting on it.
I'm only commenting on his social media post, which is the point of this entire thread.
Since everyone here has immediate access to google, if someone types “Nels who?” or whoever, I think it’s safe to assume it’s really meant as a pointed comment, with at least a touch of intended sarcasm, and not as a request for information.
To me the implication is that person is not important enough in the context of the subject to be making the kinds of statements that he has been quoted as making.
You know nothing about him or his relationship with Fender, and yet you've called him a childish prick. That pretty much negates anything else you have to say.
I would not be surprised if that is being sorted out as this thread goes on. Fender are not bad guys, but they may have boned it here. Nels is legendary within his genres just as so many are. I would include Johnny Marr and J. Mascis as guys who are also legendary in their circles, but not so much household name guys. For example, a metal guy could easily stump me on guitar player names in metal bands. Means nothing. Just not my area.
Anyways, did Fender copy Nels guitar? I would call it "inspired by", but the short answer is yes. Should Nels be annoyed? That's his prerogative. I can't say I wouldn't react the same way in the same position.
I remember a couple years ago Bon Jovi released a single called "This House Is Not For Sale" and named the album after it, made custom artwork with a house showing it's roots under ground. Well, in my circles everyone knows "This House Is Not For Sale" is a staple Ryan Adams song. And Ryan Adams called it out on IG. I felt he had every right to do so. I'm certain there were some Bon Jovi fans that reacted "Who the F is Ryan Adams?" Does it matter that they don't know? Nope. Does it make him any less relevant? Nope. Is it possible Jon Bon Jovi knows who he is? Very likely. And that's what matters. Fender knows damn well who Nels Cline is.
Blah blah blah whiner cry baby....Nels Cline is the most over rated guitar player in at least a decade or two. If not for instagram and social media he would've floated off into the sunset years ago without as much as a whimper. Get over yourself kook.
Similar wear pattern, but black over sunburst. Fender released these years ago on a large scale and no one complained.
Then stop reading and responding to my posts if everything I have to say is negated by my opinion. Oh, and in case it wasn't clear, it's my opinion that it's a childish prick move to take something like that to social media.
You know nothing about this guitar or how it came to be, yet you vehemently vilify Fender. That pretty much negates anything else you have to say.
And with that I'm done responding to you and this thread.
I know everything about that guitar and how it came to be. That's why I take issue with Fender.
Nels, is that you?
How many guitars did they build like Nels guitar?