Fender Deluxe tone but with more wattage?

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  1. GuitarRuss

    GuitarRuss Member

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    Hi there, my Twin is too heavy, and my Ampeg Superjet is good but not as good as a Fender Deluxe, so I'm going to be selling my Twin and getting a new amp.

    I love the sound of Deluxes but need clean (no breakup) at higher volumes for African, reggae and my original music. I'm currently borrowing a Vibrolux and like it but it's also a bit noisy. At 40 watts it has a great loud clean sound and great breakup if I want to push it.

    My question: What are my best options for a higher wattage Deluxe type sound? I'm willing to look at other companies like Alessandro, Victoria, etc. I would like reverb included. I don't want to pay much over $1400 (less is great too) and new or used are both great. The weight and size of the Vibrolux are about the maximum I'd consider.

    Thanks for any help you might give.
     
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    Guinness Lad Silver Supporting Member

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    Buy a used Tone King, 40 watts - 4 6V6's with a killer clean channel and a tweed style overdrive channel. Super light and really well made.
     
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    bluesbreaker59 Silver Supporting Member

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    Vicky Double Deluxe get a used one, and grab a Holy Grail pedal or a Fender Tube Reverb tank
     
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    Allen Accomplice?
     
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    Victoria's Double Deluxe is a fantastic amp. I use one in a soul/afrobeat band. But it's not a high-headroom amp, and the tone is the thicker, tweed deluxe sound, not blackface. I'm thinking about adding a switchable negative feedback loop for more headroom on mine.
     
  7. squeally dan

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    I use a sf Deluxe for a wedding band I play with. We can actually get pretty loud and for the most part the Deluxe ha been great. I always have monitors and the amp is miced. I have been using an RC booster set for max xlean and it also seems to get me a louder clean out of the deluxe. I also ran it with 6L6's instead of the 6V6's for awhile. I couldn't tell it helped as far as headroom that much.
     
  8. gkoelling

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    If you're looking for blackface try a Gries 35. It's a 1x12 combo with reverb, has great BF tones and is real quiet.
     
  9. slackandsteel

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    How about a DR with a really efficient speaker?

    The Carr Rambler is another great sounding Fendery clean amp to consider.
     
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    Carr Rambler or slant 6
     
  11. dotlikeimpact

    dotlikeimpact Supporting Member

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    Wattage matters far less than speaker sensitivity/efficiency in the loudness game. I was recently using a 20 watter that was far louder than my 40 and 50 watt amps due to speaker sensitivity.
     
  12. wingwalker

    wingwalker Fuzzy Guitars

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    Next step up is a Bandmaster Reverb...35 watts and it's a head, drop it on a 1x12 or a 2x12, if you want to stay combo you could have a cab made and be good to go. A Vibrolux is a great one too but it's a 2x10 and Vibrolux amps go for lots more than a Bandmaster Reverb. You could also go to a Pro Reverb but those are still pretty big however they weight lots less than a Twin Reverb
     
  13. 414driver

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    Might try a Dr Z Z-28...a deluxe on steroids!
     
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    Carr Rambler, better trem too, and the used price is quite good these days.
     
  15. rhythmrocker

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    Yes indeed. I was in Austin for a Pedal/Amp fest last summer. When the TOne KIng was turned on, heads turned. I commented then that it was the best Fender BF 6V6 I had ever heard. There was a guy there with a /13 amp who stood up to take a look see.

    I don't know where you are, but here's a 40-watter for sale:
    http://atlanta.craigslist.org/msg/736801653.html

    I have been successful getting "local sale only" folks to ship, but you have to ask them real nice and pay (in this case, to S.F., I would offer up to $100.00 shipping/handling for a well-packed, double-boxed amp. No peanuts, please. No UPS; FedEx or better.

    Good luck!
     
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    A Big Plus One - the Comet 40 or Meteor II are ones that I use a lot!

    Dana O.
     
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    exactly_ The Comet 40B exactly what a more powerful bfdr sounds like.
     
  18. GuitarRuss

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    I'm going back to Canada at the end of August so I can pick up the amp then. I have relatives coming from the States so they can bring up any amp from the States too.

    Does the Bandmaster have the same kind of tone as the Vibrolux and Deluxe? They are quite affordable. Some of these amps are really expensive, above my price range unless I find a great used deal.

    Are people selling amps through Craig's List more than Ebay nowadays? How do I search all of Craig's List, not just one city?

    Thanks for the suggestions.
     
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  19. Brien

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    Well, I was in that same situation, as I own a BR NR Deluxe, and I bought a Victorilux as well. I wouldn't say they sound the same, but I'm very happy with the Victorilux. Some efficient speakers really give the Victorilux a lot more headroom-I went with Webers, 12f150 and Ceramic Blue Dog combo. I have a 2-12 which is really not that heavy, but he also makes it in a 1-12 now if size is a factor.
     
  20. tommytomcat

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    Russ, I was just looking at the Allenamps.com website and saw that Dave is selling a used Vibrolux reverb for $1300 + $75 shipping. The pics look very clean (used).. BF cosmetics.. tilt back legs.. raw control installed.. 10" & 12" Reverend Alltone speakers.. Upgraded OT.. 3 day trial period.. and Dave has serviced it. Looks like a cool deal.

    http://www.allenamps.com/usedgear.php
     

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