Fender tone/Gibson feel

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  1. gucka

    gucka Member

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    I wonder if you guys could help me with a problem; I always loved the tone of a strat but prefered the feel of a Gibson neck, like es-175/335. Do you have any suggestions which guitar to check out that combines the two, preferably a major brand that isn't too hard to get hold of in Sweden!

    Thanks!

    -Thomas
     
  2. rwe333

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    Look for a good Les Paul Deluxe w/ the mini-humbuckers...
     
  3. Stan Malinowski

    Stan Malinowski Gold Supporting Member Silver Supporting Member

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    How about an Anderson Cobra with 3 M-Series (Mini Humbucker) pickups? You can even get the Cobra in a familiar S (Strat) style body.
     
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    Look for GIbbies with P-90 single coil pickups. Not quite the real strat sound, but a wonderful single coil sound nevertheless.

    P-90 Gibbies also tend to be less expensive. Some are even under $1000.

    Good Luck

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    >>How about an Anderson Cobra with 3 M-Series (Mini Humbucker) pickups?

    Oh man, I played one of these the other day and it was scary good. Those M-Series pickups are killer and the guitar felt great. Surprisingly single coil sounding, and great in between quack, but I'm not sure I'd characterize it as Strat-like. But so what? It was a great sounding guitar in and of itself.
     
  6. tonedrip

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    I recently aquired a Gibson Nighthawk special (2 pickup/5way). This guitar fits your wish list perfectly. It has a Fender scale , string thru body, fender type bridge, split coils, but a Gibson mahogany/rosewood/ neck (withsplit block inlays) , smaller mahogany body/ flame maple top.

    I love it , it honestly is like the child of Tele/Les Paul parents. They can be had for a bargain as well.
     
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    I am not sure this is the cheapest option, but since I haven't seen it up here yet --

    Find a strat whose tone you like --- then get one of those 24 3/4 scale necks that they sell (Warmoth? others too?)


    Sounds like they were made for a guy like you. A bolt on Gibson scale neck for a strat. I don't know anything about the neck carves, but I am sure they make what you want.

    $.02:D


    BTW - In my experience p90's are closer than mini buckers -- but neither are really "it" for strat tones.
     
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  8. Stan Malinowski

    Stan Malinowski Gold Supporting Member Silver Supporting Member

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    Angelo,

    Try the Anderson Minibuckers. They changed my mind on minis, tone is much more like a single coil on steroids rather than a humbicker derivative. Until I tried the Anderson minis I would have agreed with your P-90 statement 100%.
     
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    My experience has not included the Anderson's mini's -- glad they are that cool.

    I've only known Gibson mini's on two different Pauls. And maybe a Firebird? Those were mini's right?
     
  10. Tom CT

    Tom CT Old Supporting Member Gold Supporting Member

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    Sounds like you're looking for an '80s Valley Arts Strat, with single coils and a tune-o-matic/stop bar combo. I've occasionally seen them on Ebay, and the last one had a very low reserve. Worth considering as they're very well made and would probably fit the bill nicely. Tom
     
  11. Lex Luthier

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    You could always have a tech re-radius & refret the fingerboard of a Strat to a 12" radius, that would get you closer to a Gibson feel, but you would still have more string tension because of the 25-1/2" scale.
     
  12. Tone Loco

    Tone Loco Silver Supporting Member

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    I've done that, and it works, sorta. The neck I had was decent but it didn't feel like a gibson. For one thing it was unbound. Maybe they sell bound ones now... For another to get the right scale I had to carve body to make the neck neck pocket closer to the bridge. It was actually a G&L but I think you'd have the same problem with a strat.

    It did give some nice sounds and I liked the shorter scale but it didn't really feel like a good gibson neck and you're left with a body that has a gap between the neck heel and the pocket if you ever go back to the fender scale neck.
     
  13. Bluedawg

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    IIRC the SRV signature strat has a 12" radius fretboard. If you're not after the SRV thing, change out the pickguard and pups to get the look and sound you want.

    Just another possibility.

    :p
     
  14. gucka

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    Thanks for the suggestions!
    Clearly spoken, what I'm after is a strat guitar with a Gibson scale and radius. Of course I could have a luthier build one for me, but that's not interesting at this point yet. Thought I'd check out the "mass-produced" market first and see what that would bring.
    That Anderson might be something!?

    -T
     
  15. MCG

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    For the Gibson feel and Fender tone you might try a Gibson Firebird out and see if it fits the bill.

    MCG
     
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    Tone Loco Silver Supporting Member

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    Another thought is Hamer. They make a lot of set neck guitars with bound 24 3/4 scale necks. I had a tele style one that had single coils and a HB at the bridge. There are a lot of used Hamer USAs around and they are reasonably priced for handmade guitars.

    I think its very wierd that there aren't tons of 'fender sound/gibson feel' guitars. Gibson necks feel so much better but the tonal variety is lacking with the traditional gibson 2 HB & 3 way toggle. Maybe the sound of the 24 3/4 scale and the single coils is just not quite the same so manufacturers don't bother. I didn't really notice a difference in sound with my G&L and 24 3/4 neck though.

    If you find something post it here, its been a holy grail type quest for me for a long time. But I'm lazy :D
    Good luck.
     
  18. Nightfly27

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    This is how I've thought of the McInturff's that I've played - he packs a whole bunch of snap and twang into set-neck'd mahogany guitars.

    FWIW,

    NF
     
  19. Tone Loco

    Tone Loco Silver Supporting Member

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    Yeah but the original poster is looking for a 'fender sound' - which I assume means single coils... I doubt you're going to get that from these gibson style humbucker guitars. I imagine you'd get a lot closer with something like the PRS electronics.
     

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