Fender tone/Gibson feel

gucka

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I wonder if you guys could help me with a problem; I always loved the tone of a strat but prefered the feel of a Gibson neck, like es-175/335. Do you have any suggestions which guitar to check out that combines the two, preferably a major brand that isn't too hard to get hold of in Sweden!

Thanks!

-Thomas
 

Stan Malinowski

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How about an Anderson Cobra with 3 M-Series (Mini Humbucker) pickups? You can even get the Cobra in a familiar S (Strat) style body.
 

Bluedawg

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Look for GIbbies with P-90 single coil pickups. Not quite the real strat sound, but a wonderful single coil sound nevertheless.

P-90 Gibbies also tend to be less expensive. Some are even under $1000.

Good Luck

:cool:
 

george4908

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>>How about an Anderson Cobra with 3 M-Series (Mini Humbucker) pickups?

Oh man, I played one of these the other day and it was scary good. Those M-Series pickups are killer and the guitar felt great. Surprisingly single coil sounding, and great in between quack, but I'm not sure I'd characterize it as Strat-like. But so what? It was a great sounding guitar in and of itself.
 

tonedrip

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I recently aquired a Gibson Nighthawk special (2 pickup/5way). This guitar fits your wish list perfectly. It has a Fender scale , string thru body, fender type bridge, split coils, but a Gibson mahogany/rosewood/ neck (withsplit block inlays) , smaller mahogany body/ flame maple top.

I love it , it honestly is like the child of Tele/Les Paul parents. They can be had for a bargain as well.
 

angelo

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I am not sure this is the cheapest option, but since I haven't seen it up here yet --

Find a strat whose tone you like --- then get one of those 24 3/4 scale necks that they sell (Warmoth? others too?)


Sounds like they were made for a guy like you. A bolt on Gibson scale neck for a strat. I don't know anything about the neck carves, but I am sure they make what you want.

$.02:D


BTW - In my experience p90's are closer than mini buckers -- but neither are really "it" for strat tones.
 

Stan Malinowski

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BTW - In my experience p90's are closer than mini buckers -- but neither are really "it" for strat tones.
Angelo,

Try the Anderson Minibuckers. They changed my mind on minis, tone is much more like a single coil on steroids rather than a humbicker derivative. Until I tried the Anderson minis I would have agreed with your P-90 statement 100%.
 

angelo

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Originally posted by Stan Malinowski
Angelo,

Try the Anderson Minibuckers. They changed my mind on minis, tone is much more like a single coil on steroids rather than a humbicker derivative. Until I tried the Anderson minis I would have agreed with your P-90 statement 100%.

My experience has not included the Anderson's mini's -- glad they are that cool.

I've only known Gibson mini's on two different Pauls. And maybe a Firebird? Those were mini's right?
 

Tom CT

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Sounds like you're looking for an '80s Valley Arts Strat, with single coils and a tune-o-matic/stop bar combo. I've occasionally seen them on Ebay, and the last one had a very low reserve. Worth considering as they're very well made and would probably fit the bill nicely. Tom
 

Lex Luthier

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You could always have a tech re-radius & refret the fingerboard of a Strat to a 12" radius, that would get you closer to a Gibson feel, but you would still have more string tension because of the 25-1/2" scale.
 

Tone Loco

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Originally posted by angelo
I am not sure this is the cheapest option, but since I haven't seen it up here yet --

Find a strat whose tone you like --- then get one of those 24 3/4 scale necks that they sell (Warmoth? others too?)


Sounds like they were made for a guy like you. A bolt on Gibson scale neck for a strat. I don't know anything about the neck carves, but I am sure they make what you want.
I've done that, and it works, sorta. The neck I had was decent but it didn't feel like a gibson. For one thing it was unbound. Maybe they sell bound ones now... For another to get the right scale I had to carve body to make the neck neck pocket closer to the bridge. It was actually a G&L but I think you'd have the same problem with a strat.

It did give some nice sounds and I liked the shorter scale but it didn't really feel like a good gibson neck and you're left with a body that has a gap between the neck heel and the pocket if you ever go back to the fender scale neck.
 

Bluedawg

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Originally posted by Lex Luthier
You could always have a tech re-radius & refret the fingerboard of a Strat to a 12" radius, that would get you closer to a Gibson feel, but you would still have more string tension because of the 25-1/2" scale.
IIRC the SRV signature strat has a 12" radius fretboard. If you're not after the SRV thing, change out the pickguard and pups to get the look and sound you want.

Just another possibility.

:p
 

gucka

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Thanks for the suggestions!
Clearly spoken, what I'm after is a strat guitar with a Gibson scale and radius. Of course I could have a luthier build one for me, but that's not interesting at this point yet. Thought I'd check out the "mass-produced" market first and see what that would bring.
That Anderson might be something!?

-T
 

MCG

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For the Gibson feel and Fender tone you might try a Gibson Firebird out and see if it fits the bill.

MCG
 

Tone Loco

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Originally posted by gucka
Thanks for the suggestions!
Clearly spoken, what I'm after is a strat guitar with a Gibson scale and radius. Of course I could have a luthier build one for me, but that's not interesting at this point yet. Thought I'd check out the "mass-produced" market first and see what that would bring.
Another thought is Hamer. They make a lot of set neck guitars with bound 24 3/4 scale necks. I had a tele style one that had single coils and a HB at the bridge. There are a lot of used Hamer USAs around and they are reasonably priced for handmade guitars.

I think its very wierd that there aren't tons of 'fender sound/gibson feel' guitars. Gibson necks feel so much better but the tonal variety is lacking with the traditional gibson 2 HB & 3 way toggle. Maybe the sound of the 24 3/4 scale and the single coils is just not quite the same so manufacturers don't bother. I didn't really notice a difference in sound with my G&L and 24 3/4 neck though.

If you find something post it here, its been a holy grail type quest for me for a long time. But I'm lazy :D
Good luck.
 

Nightfly27

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This is how I've thought of the McInturff's that I've played - he packs a whole bunch of snap and twang into set-neck'd mahogany guitars.

FWIW,

NF
 




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