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Fight of The Best Dumble Clones! Quinn vs Louis Electrics Cobra!

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by Tag, Nov 8, 2019.

  1. DiPa

    DiPa Constant GAS Gold Supporting Member

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    I thought we are not going to get into each other, the guy just made a joke
     
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    ahh so you are saying Tag we should buy Cobra cause we love your sig tone :)
    No worries, it’s all good, the amp sounds killer on what you are playing and doing.
     
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    Sounds really nice! How is it with a Strat?
     
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    This!
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    I'm not telling anyone to buy anything honestly. What I can say is, like the Quinns, the Cobra is as good as any Dumble I have played, including 183. There is nothing you can buy that I know of that will give you all those old Blue line Robben Ford tones with such ease, and lots of other phenominal and unique tones as well. I broke down and bought Dumble 183 because I was never totally happy with any of the clones. The Quinn changed that, and if Shad had not disappeared, there would be no Cobra. Now its finally available again to anyone who missed out on a Quinn, or who wants those tones. I think that's really cool, and like the Quinns, I could have only my Cobra and never think about a Dumble type amp again.
    It's that good.
    :beer
     
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    He was joking as well!
    :beer
     
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    Here is the Quinn with my old dead stock 57 AVRI Strat. The Cobra sounds identical. The backing is the bridge pup. The lead is the neck pup. I put down the drum track and made the clip as a backing for the video I made playing with my dogs that day. (Catahoula leopard dogs, the true loves of my life!!!)
    :)

     
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    Here is the Strat I used in the above video.
    I actually have it in my posession right now.
    Absolutely killer sounding, right off the shelf.
    The flat sawn necks and small frets on those really add to the tone IMO. It's also in the lower 7 lb range, and my favorite color!!
    :beer

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    hot dogs ! :D
    the EL34s come through more prominent in this clip, it seems.
    I like it !
    was that recorded louder ?

    speaking of tubes, sorry if it has been discussed before, but what are you currently using in the Cobra, and are they the same types as in the Quinn clips ?
    only curious, not wanting to start a big debate - with D-styles this is more of a personal taste thing, rather than with Marshalls or Hiwatts, ime. :dunno

    thanks,
    Rhino
     
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    Lol!! That was the 6L6 Quinn!!!
    :jo

    Totally forgot that until you asked about the EL34s!!

    The 2 amps sound so similar, it's kind of irrelevant anyway. The tubes are all chinese or Russians. I tried all kinds, and could tell little difference. At least not enough that it mattered to me. I tried GEs, RCAs, Mullards, Telefunkins and Bugle boys.
    Very minor differences that could be made up with small changes on the gain knobs or eq.
    :beer
     
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    thanks for the info !
    interesting about the 6L6 version ...
    not what I expected at all, but then - different style, different guitar ...
    whatever, sounded great to me ! :aok

    is the 6L6 amp identical, except for the power stage ?

    cheers,
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    A few minor Shad tweaks, but very very close.
    Really just fine tuning after the tube and transformer changes. EL34 is a little thicker and richer in the mids, 6L6 a little smoother but flatter. You can adjust the gain, mid and treble knob to get them so close its splitting hairs.
    :beer
     
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    thanks, makes sense. :aok
    at least for low to medium volume.
    if you dial them in the opposite way, master full and clean gain up until you get some power amp crunch * (a bit like a Kelley), I bet the tubes make more of a difference.
    but that's absolutely not your tone, so it indeed doesn't matter here.
    horses for courses ...
    Rhino

    * brutally loud without some kind of attenuator ! :hide
     
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    For whatever reason, no matter what guitar or amp I play, there's always this upper-mid thing going on when I play.
     
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    You are an upper mid guy :)
    I hate always sounding the same, I have a bunch of amps and always try different things...that’s me.
     
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    Blues, you should put that backing up as a play along. I have been practicing new ideas with it, and it's a really cool groove and the changes are enough for the jazzier guys, but simple enough for even the most basic rockers. Good find, thanks!!
    :beer
     
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    The only amp I really dial a different tone on and actually sound a bit different on is my AC15. Fun amp!!
     
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    Well I do enjoy a good alnico speaker ;).

    If I get some time this weekend I will. I haven't had much playing time the last few weeks unfortunately, which is a little frustrating.

    That backing is a good one. Check out that channel (Quist) he has some great backing tracks on there.
     
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    All y’all need to chill the F out.


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