Finally got to try a 20th Shiva!

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  1. shanesiegle

    shanesiegle Supporting Member

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    Man what a killer amp! I have played the regular models a few times and thought they were cool but this thing is out of this world! Easily one of the best clean channels I have encountered and the lead channel can do just about everything very well. I see one of these in my future for sure.

    While I was there I tried out a mini recto and was pleasantly surprised with that too! Fun guitar shop day for sure, at Guitar Zar in Salt Lake.
     
  2. DGTCrazy

    DGTCrazy Moderator de Emporio Staff Member

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    Yeah....the KT-88's are a very cool tube. Love my Bogner amps!
     
  3. shanesiegle

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    I know there are other tweaks but the kt88s really sound superb with this amp. First time I plugged into anything since I got my Sig X that I had to have. Thinking the mini recto is on the list too which surprises me since the full size version isn't exactly my cup of tea.
     
  4. Braciola

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    Awesome sounding amp.
    My favorite Bogner.
     
  5. flimz

    flimz Supporting Member

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    Another very happy 20th Shiva owner here! Mine's got EL34s in it.
     
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    Also just picked up a Shiva 2 weeks ago and I'm insanely in love with it. Very harmonically rich tone. Mine's an EL-34 model as well, but would love to try a KT one of these days...almost afraid to...$$$
     
  7. shanesiegle

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    I'm almost positive it's just a resistor change to switch over so it wouldn't be that expensive if you liked it. To me it makes it tighter and more modern sounding which I like. It still could get all the old school shiva tones too but with tones you couldn't get before.
     
  8. BrentSP

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    Yup just a resistor change. On mine chose a resistor that would cover a range of both KT88 and EL34 for easy swap and bias. The tranny's are not designed with any particular tube in mind according to Bogner.
     
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    I'd love to try one but I'm afraid to...
     
  10. shanesiegle

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    You should be they are amazing! I'm going to La in a couple weeks and will be amp shopping. So far it's the front runner.
     
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    I've been looking at this amp for awhile, you're not helping :D
     
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    That's what I did with mine. Now I can bias up to KT88's or EL34's. The EL34's can sound mushy when kranked REAL hard but I've never need that loud even in a band. Got El34's in there now cause I like that older Shiva classic sound. Just an amazing amp with THE best clean Ch, I like it better than most vintage Fenders. The KT88s make the clean Ch sound a little better I think too.

    Also I've had a Mini Recto and I'll tell ya that amp is just SMOKIN with every kind of tone from Classic rock, blues or metal... I'd still own it if I didn't get offered a brand new Quick Rod head for it.
     
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    Would be interesting to know if the 20th Anniversary uses a different Output Tranny than the EL34 model. I'm thinking that the KT88 has a different primary impedance requirement than the EL34. At least for an optimum match.
     
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    Nope, same tranny for both versions according to Bogner, no difference.
     
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    Thanks for that. Have a sale pending on my Clubman, and a Shiva is one of the frontrunners to replace it. I prefer EL34's so I wanted to make sure I didn't have a reason to cross the 20th Anniversary off my list.
     
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    I have one on the way to me and can't wait! I will post a review after I get a chance to spend some time with it.
     
  17. BrentSP

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    I've been up and down about selling mine (currently for sale). Its a damn good amp but I use the GF45 exclusively out and the 101B for studio/recording. The Shiva 20th I haven't found a fit yet but its sounds so good. 3 is a crowd for amps it seems with me. Now guitars I seem to can't have too many.
     
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    I owned the original Shiva (EL34) several years ago and I loved the cleans and loved the crunch, but for me there was just no lead channel there. I tried to make it work by pushing the dirty channel with pedals but just wasn't crazy about it so I sold it. I've heard the 20th has more gain on tap so that should work for me. Are they still making the 20th? Seems weird if it was just a 20th anniversary model. But anyway, I've been wanting an EL34 amp again so maybe I should check one out.
     
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    Zappatalist...I have the mode switch mod on mine and its awesome. Shouldve been done that way from the factory. :)
     
  20. BrentSP

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    Yeah with the mode engaged it has more than enough gain for most players. It's a very open and big high gain crunch, big teeth with good high mids and sweet highs.
     

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