Finally, solderless DC cables!

Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by Play by Tone, Jun 3, 2016.

  1. Play by Tone

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    Clark GriswoId Supporting Member

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    That's cool, but they do not appear to be available yet. Website states " Pre-order yours today!!"
     
  3. Play by Tone

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    Yeah, seems to be par for the course nowadays. I can't imagine it'll be too long.
     
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    Very cool, but no Cioks option?
     
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    No thanks. Learn to solder...it's stupid simple and cheap.
     
  6. Play by Tone

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    To each his own. I can solder, and so can all the guitar techs who use solderless plugs on tour.

    Tony @ Evidence makes a good argument how his particular solderless plug is better than a soldered connection.

    If you have problems with solderless technology, maybe the answer should be, "Learn to make proper solderless terminations."
     
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    Is there a link somewhere to why the Evidence system is better than soldered? I'm very curious because I'm more in the "solder it yourself" camp, but I'm always open to other view points.

    I will say the solderless cables I've used have always been reliable, but I like the cost effectiveness of buying cable in bulk and soldering it myself.
     
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    Do people actually solder their own DC cables? I've never seen a kit, nor the parts for that.
     
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    I can solder quite well.......just don't know if I would trust myself on DC cables though.....
     
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    I did once several years ago, though I can't find the guy's shop online anymore.

    Solderless is fine with me but $6.50 a plug is hard to countenance. I use Evidence SIS/Monorail and to me it really does seem more reliable than soldered but again, the price was a bitter pill to swallow. As far as DC power goes those sort of prices are a straight up dealbreaker for me, and I use Cioks anyway.
     
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    I thought that too. George L's at one point made solder less RCA plugs, if you can find them. Otherwise I think cusack sells a generic solder less alternative for his tap jacks on his pedals.
     
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    For me it's solution in search of a problem.
     
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    100% agreement here. Soldering isn't hard and any soldiered cable will always be dependable and reliable for years. Plus, piece of mind knowing you have a solid connection. If you spend a lot on pedals and a board, why stop at solderless? Figure it out how to solder or have someone help you.
     
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    Buy the parts in bulk and solder away. Wether it's for a Voodoo Lab Type PSU or Cioks PSU, it's just the same a soldering audio cables.
     
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    Thanks for that. I looked at that page before, but I somehow missed the full explanation haha.

    Seems like a pretty clever system, but I'm not totally convinced that it's better than just soldering. It's pretty easy to make an airtight seal with soldered plugs, too. And soldering your own is still much cheaper. The Evidence probably sounds a little better than your average cable, but that shouldn't really matter in a properly assembled rig with good buffering.
     
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    Now can someone please make solder less TRS cables??
     
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    As one who solders a lot of patch and power cables, it's a great idea. However, the cost isn't justified: proprietary cable (cannot use VL cable), I don't see a set screw or any method to secure the cable aside from friction, the 2.1mm connector is large, the connection looks like a "pin-in-srtand" (PIS) connection which in time will loosen the cable especially since there is no set screw or retainer.
     
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    I do. You can buy the parts at just about any electronics supplier. My local mom and pop shops have them in stock, though I typically buy the barrel connectors online in bulk, and I use the 'zipcord' mogami mic cable. It's a fraction of the cost of the solderless shown above.
     
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    We are still working on pricing, that's why for the pre-order it says if the price drops we will honor the lowest price. We are manufacturing these in the US, so unfortunately that drives our costs up, but we'd rather do it here rather than overseas and keep the quality up.

    Greg Howard
    3 Monkeys
     

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