This just blows me away sometime. I guess when I was 18 (back in '74) and starting out in my band, well...even then I had a simplified tone thought process. I mean, I used the volume only as volume (not gain control) but I did switch pickups depending, and even used the tone control. My amp...I just adjusted til it sounded good, and I had the three basics trebly, bassy, and middy. After a while I even thought in my own terms like "bubbly", "sparkly", "crunchy" (even before hearing someone else call it that), etc. But not nearly as aware as I am now. Sometimes I wish I was a little less aware of it actually as it is a sort of never-ending quest. Some times really happy with the tone, but wondering if I can get even better tone! I can tend to forget that tone isn't everything, though it can spur you on to play better when you hear exactly what you want to hear coming out of your guitar. But then, yeah often these are more beginners but not always, you meet a guitarist that is almost obtuse about "tone". In fact, the rythm guitarist in our band is not very tone conscious. Yet, he has come up and complimented me on my tone sometimes. Still...I see that usually he never touches volume/tone/pickup selector on his guitar all night, and I never see him tweak amp EQ controls. His sound is not terrible, sometimes it is really good, but we play a song where he needs a real dirty OD sound, and he has a helluva time getting it. I have tried to show him a little about it, I don't know if he just thinks it is "too much fuss" or I maybe am throwing too much at him at a time, showing how with an OD pedal if you bring down the guitar vol you can smooth it out, or pointing out how sometimes the amount of verb on his amp washes out his playing and makes the mix muddy...not accusatory, just information. But he seems to nod and then promptly forget it. Recently talked with another younger gutiarist who is a big SRV fan, yet...not all that tone-conscious. I have to actively try to remember that not all guitarists are all that interested in tone. Especially since I hang out here with all you tone-dogs Ever run into someone like that and get taken aback?