Fingerstyle: Need help figuring out which fingers to use

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  1. etheran

    etheran Member

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    So I have a small section I need to learn how to play. It's not so difficult until you get up to speed ~156bpm. I'm not so great at determining which fingers I should use, especially for speedy sections. Wonder if anybody could take my tab and give me an idea of which fingers (p i m a) to use. It's a scale run across the 3 bottom strings, not too tricky, but, I want to learn it for speed and I'm reaching out for help on this one. Everything is pretty much triplets except for the phrase ending quarter notes. TY in advance <3!

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    |---------------------------0--2--0------|---0--------------------------------0---|
    |------0--1--3--1--0--1--3-----------3---|------3--1--3--1--0--1--0--------0------|
    |---2------------------------------------|---------------------------2------------|
    |----------------------------------------|----------------------------------------|
    |---0--------0--------0--------0---------|---0--------0--------0------------------|
    |----------------------------------------|------------------------------0---------|
    
    |---------------------------0--2--0------|---0------------------------------------|
    |------0--1--3--1--0--1--3-----------3---|------1--------0--3--1------------------|
    |---2------------------------------------|---------2--0-----------2--1--2---------|
    |----------------------------------------|----------------------------------------|
    |---0--------0--------0--------0---------|---------------------0------------------|
    |----------------------------------------|---0--------0---------------------------|
    
    
    |---------0--2--0-----0--2--3--5--3--2---|---3--2--0--2--0-----0--------------0---|
    |---1--3-----------3---------------------|------------------3-----3--1-----0------|
    |----------------------------------------|----------------------------------------|
    |----------------------------------------|----------------------------------------|
    |---0--------0--------0--------0---------|---0--------0--------0------------------|
    |----------------------------------------|------------------------------0---------|
    
    |---------0--2--0-----0--2--3--5--3--2---|---3--------------4--5--------5---------|
    |---1--3-----------3---------------------|------5--------5--------5---------------|
    |----------------------------------------|---------5--4--------------5------------|
    |----------------------------------------|----------------------------------------|
    |---0--------0--------0--------0---------|---------------------0------------------|
    |----------------------------------------|---0--------0---------------------------|
    
     
  2. randalljazz

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    | iam iam iam imi | ami ami ami pim |

    | iam iam iam imi | ami ami ami m |

    | mim ami ami ami | ami ami ami pim |

    | mim ami ami ami | this measure i would play on different strings:

    --3---0------------0---4-----5-------------5---
    -----------1---0-------------------5--------
    -----------------------------------------5

    and play ami ami ami a

    otherwise, you will need to double finger or slur (or use little finger). actually, you could use this rh fingering for your original line, but are likely to find the second beat awkward (there is a school somewhere in south america that teaches this "backward" fingering, index on first string middle on second and ring on third, but not at all widely adopted.)
     
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  3. etheran

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    cool! I tended to use a lot more i m ignoring the ring finger a ton, only when I needed to transition to the last string. Any good resources for learning / ingraining good scale technique into fingerstyle playing? I use Guilianis 120 arpeggios for arpeggio playing, but scale playing is really hard for me at this point.
     
  4. guitarjazz

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    Lots of RH scale fingering here:
     
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  5. etheran

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    Bought! Super cheap used copy, score.

    And let the retraining commence. I just attempted the above run with the fingering suggestion and it is way harder for me than I anticipated. I suppose it will be well worth it in the end result.
     
  6. guitarjazz

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    None of those fingering utilize the thumb right? So those should be added.
    My old copy listed at like $2.
     
  7. etheran

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    I gotta say, the "reprogramming" here was really tough. It literally took me like 2 days just to get the fingers correct, but I think the effort was well worth it. I'm just now beginning to speed it up and it feels smoother than it ever did before. Thanks again for all the help and advice.
     
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    This is the book you really want:
     
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  9. mobius

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    Saying this in the best possible way, it doesn’t make sense to be uncomfortable playing with a and attempting anywhere close to triplets at 150bpm.

    Perhaps you need to pick up some slower music till you get to level where you’re fully comfortable with using all fingers.

    Going too fast, too soon, can open gaps in your technique.

    We all do it of course!
     
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  10. etheran

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    I got the 120 studies! They're great and I might consider buying this anyways since I like to have paperback vs. a PDF. I wanted something specifically for practicing scale runs, but don't get me wrong, I actually DO care a bit more about arpeggio technique.
    Too true, but I DO care a lot about my technique, otherwise I would of continued winging it with my technique for this run. I don't plan to be able to play it up to speed anytime real soon, it's just more about getting it right at this point.
     
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    Mark Hanson has 2 books dedicated to fingerstyle guitar, working up to all the variations with thumb and 3 fingers. His website: http://markhansonguitar.com/.
     

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