Floyd Rose tuneing issues...again!

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  1. skunizzi

    skunizzi Member

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    I've noticed that I always have the same issue with any Floyd Rose style bridge I use. It seems like everything is in tune and in balance but eventually the tuning slips and i need to re-tune with the fine tuners. It keeps doing this until I reach the end of the adjustment range of the fine tuner and need to them unlock the locking nut, retune the strings with the headstock tuners then re-lock down the locking nut and start over...

    Does anyone here know how to remedy this issue?

    Thanks
     
  2. Maltese Fan

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    Is this a new guitar? Are you stretching the strings? I usually tune it up and play it for a bit, after stretching the strings, before locking the nut down.
     
  3. skunizzi

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    Not a new guitar or strings. Yes I normally stretch the strings properly.
     
  4. Blix

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    How often do you need to unlock the nut and retune?
     
  5. RLD

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    Well, it would seem like it would have to be slipping at the locking nut.
    It would pop out at the bridge if it were loose.
    All my FR systems were rock solid and would hold tuning forever.
     
  6. John_M

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    Slipping that much?? Your saddle is likely loose but you 'd notice that, intonation would be off. Nut could be loose - maybe you didn't lock the strings tight enough - else it's a pretty simple system man. I was demo-ing this guitar for sale and wanted to show the stability of the floyd at the end

     
  7. skunizzi

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    Probably every few weeks
     
  8. skunizzi

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    I'm probably just to aggressive with the whammy bar LOL
     
  9. monty

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    Thats really not too bad. Changes in climate can cause that.
     
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    Both of the above.
    Occasionally (not always) within a week of restringing, i'd have to loosen the locking nut on the (high) E and B strings and retune those two.
    After that, rock solid tuning for months on end. Literally. (if you like to keep your strings on that long...)

    Also, i have not noticed temperature/climate effects that resulted in having to unlock at the nut.
     
  11. NeedmoreCrunch

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    I have never encountered that issue with any guitar I've owned with floyds.
     
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    Only time I've had that problem with a Floyd is when the strings weren't stretched enough before locking the nut, or if the strings are slipping in the locking nut.
     
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    That guitar on the vid had about 2 hours of playing time over the last 4 years. I never unlocked the nut to tune since then. Solid as a rock. Floyd Rose makes THE most stable trem system in human history .
     
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    How tight are you locking at the nut? If it’s more than snug you can wear the locking pieces out. Not sure if it’s a new guitar, if used who knows what the previous owner did. Take a look at the underside of your locking pieces at the nut... if they are worn odds are that’s the issue... easy cheap fix
     
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    Isn't that normal? I find the same thing, probably after about 3 weeks
     
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    I pretty much never have to loosen the nut between string changes. If it's going to happen, maybe like the first couple days after changing strings if I didn't get them stretched quite enough. But otherwise I never have the need, and there are drastic climate changes where I live - sometimes even day to day at certain times of the year.
     
  17. skunizzi

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    I try not to over tighten the locking nut because I know this can lead to trouble. I am the first owner of the guitar so there is no previous issues. The underside of the locking nut seems fine.
     
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    Does all the strings slip? Or just one or two? If it's 2 adjacent strings, try changing the locknut blocks around, and see if the problem shifts strings.
    If it's all strings, perhaps will need more springs for your string gauge?
     
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    Like others mentioned, it seems like the slippage is at the locking but.
    Could Also be burrs on the knife edge, it unlikely.

    To check if its slippage. Retune with the fine tuners mid range. Lock down the nut clamp, but after locking , overtighten the tuning keys to give some positive pull at the headstock end. Wait and see which direction the tuning changes after some usage.

    Other option. Could the clamps have become turned 90degree ? This happened to me once and I just kept returning them to the previous "wrong" direction.
     
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    Is it blocked with a Trem Stopper of some kind? I have put Trem Stoppers on all my (previously) floating bridge guitars. I much prefer then drop only stopped FR trem. I get a stronger body and neck vibration and longer sustain with a Trem Stopper. My new default FR guitar setup.
     

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