Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by dosmun, Nov 5, 2005.
okay, I think I speak for everyone when I say: who, what, why, when, and where?
Hmm... where's the rack version?
RD2u I think it's what it's called.
Don't show that pic to Nigel Tufnel--he might get ideas about breaking the "goes to eleven!" barrier!
I noticed the 25 year anniversary model. Do you know how many years they've been making this pedal now? I've owned two and I still love the Rat.
You wouldn't happen to know what year each model first appeared and disappeared by chance, would you?
Mine is the first one on the left - second row. I have no clue how old it is. Maybe you or another forumite does?...
Mine is the Deucetone. Love it!
This site seems to be accurate as far as when each version came out.
Basically they were all the same circuit up until the Rat II was introduced. The only difference in the First "Tone " control model was that the Tone control was wired backward from the Filter control versions. ALl of the early ones both Big Box and small box all have the same circuits in them. I have read some of the very first ones used Tantalum caps which may have affected the sound as the caps aged.
Also the New Rat II and Vintage Rat reissues are the exact same circuit just a different box. Both are True Bypass. I was actually down to visit Proco last weekend and got to seem them being built.
I also got to try a Proto of a new Rat they have coming out in January. It will be called the Solo. The picture is of the Proto when they were considering calling it the RatZo. The other picture is of Charlie Wicks who started Proco and is the CEO.
cool ! never saw the anniversary model before
my old one's still going strong. looks like the 2nd and 3rd one from the left in the second row down.
any more info on the new model? I see 2 band eq
I wish they would do a true reissue of the earlier circuit !
1) Are the Rats from the late 70s/early 80s true bypass?
2) Do you have one from that time period that you'd be willing to sell?
All Rats are True Bypass except the Rat 2's. But, the current Rat 2's are True Bypass and the exact same circuit as the Vintage Reissues.
None at the moment but there are usually a few on Ebay at any given time.
The SOLO model is supposed to have 4 knobs with both Bass and Treble contols that are somewhat interactive so you can get a somewhat scooped tone as well. The clipping diodes are going to be different and use asymetrical clipping.
Any word on what IC is going to be used? I'd buy it if they went back to LM308, or whatever the good one is.
They are now using the OP07DP. The new opamp sounds cool as well. If you really needed to have the LM308 you could get one from Small Bear and install it.
I am going to order one of the new opamps and swap it in and out with a Rat that I made and see if there really is that much of a difference.
Bump -- for a cool thread!
The Tone knob models sound different ... or at least the one I was borrowing from a friend for a spell.
Less gain, less scoop.
I compared it to my early 80's big-box Filter model, which sounded absolutely identical to another big-box Filter knob that I found and sold.
I can't say which one I liked better as they're both great, depends on the app.
They are similar mind you, but the difference in my case was still clear.
I have two early-80's small box models and they have different circuit boards in them - it's the same circuit, I think, but different silk-screening and etching.
I've heard a version of the Rat says something really funny on the circuit board. Which version is it?
The Brat and Roadkill have sayings on the PC board.
Ooh OOh OOh - I SEE mine! Second row, far left - that's my dude! Love that little black fella. 1984-ish if I recall.
Cool thread. That 'ratpack' picture is truly a classic.
I got mine about the same time. small box no led
I'd like to have mine reverse engineered so someone can clone it!
why did they change from the orig circuit anyway ?