Fractal matching real amps to perfection, Video + free stuff!!!

ejecta

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They sound similar. Not much info on how this was done though.

What's the signal chain look like? Was he listening through a real cab to both the amp and AxeFX? Were both going through the same IR? Was the real amp using mic's and the AxeFX using an IR?
 
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X-Mann

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Hey......This is just a very cool/fun video to watch & listen to!

The tube amps & the Fractal amps sound so close that I can't tell the difference or.......I just don't care in the end!

This is a great example of how you can record high gain...or just VERY LOUD amps at whisper quiet volumes & still capture great tube-like tones w/ a modeling device! I do like that the same knob settings apply between the actual amps & the modeled ones.

Larry is just a very cool guy & very talented player in the end here.

Great stuff & thanks for the share!

X
 

TJontheRoad

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Certainly is proof at least that, when in doubt, dime the amp (or settings) lol

I'll have to try those presets myself. Thanks for posting.
 

JoeB63

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Where does modeling go from here? Sounds like Fractal modeling is already identical to tube amps.

I think IRs are still an area for improvement. For whatever reason, I get much more realistic tones out of my Kemper (no distinct IRs) than I can out of my Amplifire (which uses IRs). And while Direct Kemper profiles also sound better than Amplifire patches without IRs through a power amp and guitar cab, the difference is more pronounced once I use IRs on the AF and go through an FRFR, so I blame the IRs.

I'm sure there are plenty of people here who will tell me I'm doing it wrong. Happy to take their advice.
 

mikah912

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Where does modeling go from here? Sounds like Fractal modeling is already identical to tube amps.

Hopefully, beyond.

I like "original" amps from both Cliff and Line 6. I want to see them do more. The time Cliff spends on tracking down the amp, then a schematic, then matching every pot and taper could be better spent creating customs by from the existing components already modeled in the Fractal boxes.
 

ejecta

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Hopefully, beyond.

I like "original" amps from both Cliff and Line 6. I want to see them do more. The time Cliff spends on tracking down the amp, then a schematic, then matching every pot and taper could be better spent creating customs by from the existing components already modeled in the Fractal boxes.

I agree. I wish a lot of modeling companies would get away from chasing the "It exactly matches brand x amp." marketing. It's allusive and not achievable given every player's playing experience whether it be with tube, solid state, or digital will ever be the same.
 

mikah912

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I also agree but we're in a tiny minority.

While I know you still (and always will) get plenty of requests from people over at the Fractal forum, The "FAS Amps" brand does a good job of shedding these expectations and freeing you from the strictures of slavish duplication. I'd love to see you do more stuff like the FAS 6160, where you tae a known quantity, put your unique spin on it and really make it shine.

Selfishly, this would allow you to throw an Archon in the box too......
 




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