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Fralin Humbucker vs. Fralin Unbucker

Discussion in 'Guitars in General' started by Urkoman, Mar 6, 2006.

  1. Urkoman

    Urkoman Member

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    Hi there!
    I´m going to replace one of my guitar´s bridge pickup (a JB, god i hate that one, am i the only one?) and i was almost decided to purchase a fralin 9,5 k humbucker.
    Taking a look at their website i´ve read about their "unbucker", which seems a humbucker made for being splitted, with one coil with more wiring than the other. As is use to mod guitars to be able to split the bridge pup, that´s a good idea for me, but my fear is their sound when used as humbucker...having one coil "hotter" than the other...won´t it sound more like kind of mix of a hum and a single? The hotter coil should be heard much more than the other ¿?
    I want it to sound like a proper humbucker when not splitted...:JAM
     
  2. Roe

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    If you want high output like 9,5k, go with a humbucker.
    I'd go for lower output and a unbucker
     
  3. fast ricky love

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    I just got a guitar with Fralin's in it - they measure 8.4 bridge, 7.5 neck. They have black wires with 4 color coded wires coming from them each. Any idea which these are exactly? No ID on the base plate of any kind...
     
  4. Garygtr

    Garygtr Almost as good! Silver Supporting Member

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    From a thread entitled "Best P.A.F's":

    Humbucker Shootout
    Humbucker Shootout

    Humbucker Shootout - Les Pauls

    >The West Coast Tone Freaks are Back<
    We have Been Testing Various "Handwound Humbuckers" and Some So Called Humbucker Standards In Historic Les Pauls.
    "Testing" Consists of 4 or 5 Les Paul Players coming down to my Recording Studio and Playing and Listening to Gibson Historic Les Pauls and Evaluating the Pickups.
    Some of the things we are Listening for are: Balance between Bridge and Neck, Smoothness, Clarity, Cleaning up when rolling back the Volume, and Overall Timbre.
    Testing is done with No Pedals, Going straight into a Marshall JTM-45 with Handwired Circut Board, OEI Tranny's, and A Pair of Amperex EL-34's We are also Testing Through an Aiken 18 Watt Invader Head. Both of these Amps are Going through a Marshall Basket Weave 4 x 12 Cab Reissue with Celestion Greenback 25's.
    All Guitars have 500k Pots and Tone Controls have been left Wide Open.
    We are not Done testing all Pickups, But have now tested about Half of them. Here are the latest Results:

    *Tom Holmes - Unanimously the Best Humbuckers Tested so far. Very Smooth Sound, Great Harmonic's, Never Harsh, Great Balance and Clean up exceptionally well! - Top Honors

    *Lindy Fralin -Unbuckers - Running a close Second, Very Smooooth, Great Jimmy Page Bride Sound, Great Harmonic's Clean up nicely, Killer Overall Tone.
    We were all very Surprised by the sound of this Pickup. Considering the Fralin PAF did not test so well.

    *WCR Fillmore - Great Rock n Roll Sound. These would be Killer Slide Pickups. Very Convincing "Duane" sound. But A Bit Overwound. Good Balance between Neck and Bridge. The Volume roll back can get a bit muddy though. But With Volume up all the way - these Pickups Scream!

    *Tim White Timbuckers - A Bit Bright Sounding. Somewhat Harsh Treble Frequencies. Cleaned up well with Vol adjustement. Decent Balance between Neck and Bridge. =Overall we were Slightly Underwhelmed.

    *Lindy Fralin 59 PAF - Neck Pickup Had a Strange Lack of Mid-Range. The Bridge was Decent, But Overall they sounded Somewhat Unbalanced. But Had good Clarity.
    This came as a Huge surprise to us, as some of the Fralin Single Coil Strat Pickups we Tested Last Year - Tetsed Very well, Especially the Steel Pole 43.

    * Jason Lollar Specials - Unbalanced Sound Between the Neck and Bridge. The Neck was Dark and Bridge seemed to have too Much Mid-Range. A Mysterious Lack of Bass in Both Pickups. Cleaned up well with Vol Adjustments, These could probably sound fine in a High Gain Amp, But we were very dissapointed overall.

    *Gibson BurstBuckers - "They Sound Boring", "Not very Clear on top", "Kind of Boomy on the Bottom", "Unfocused" - Words someone had said. These are Very Lame Humbuckers. - Again, you could Probably get a Decent sound out of a high Gain Mesa Boogie, But As for PAF Sounds These Plain out Suck!

    *Gibson 57 Classic's - Not Great, But, Definitly better than the BurstBuckers. Somewhat dark sounding, But Cleaned up Nicely and Had good Balance Between Neck and Bridge. You could get by with these for a while.

    -Your Mileage may Vary- We were going for More Classic Rock, Blues Sound. =Page, Beck, Duane, Early Clapton. - Classic PAF Sound
     
  5. jpage

    jpage Silver Supporting Member

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    Great review--is their another half?

    One question--what is the Jimmy Page "bride" sound? Haven't really considered Fralin Unbuckers as a replacement for the BBs in my R8 but it looks like I might have to give 'em a try...
     
  6. BrownDog

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    I have a set of '57 Goldtop Unbuckers - zebra bobbins, uncovered, unpotted, 7.5(N)/8.5(B) - in my PRS McCarty and the hum sounds are fabulous for that classic rock sound. The neck has a nice woody, clear tone; the bridge with a nice hint of mids. Both have that PAF double tone happening. The icing on the cake is that the split coil tones are just as cool/musical.

    For myself alone and with tone and oneness, Mike
     
  7. Roe

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    It a bright sound from a very low output PAF. A mag that reviewed the new page sig model said the bridge pu almost sounded like a tele!
     
  8. Dana Olsen

    Dana Olsen Gold Supporting Member

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    It's a typo - they meant "bridge" sound.

    Dana
     
  9. Garygtr

    Garygtr Almost as good! Silver Supporting Member

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  10. Garygtr

    Garygtr Almost as good! Silver Supporting Member

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    I dunno...."Bride of Jimmy"-could be the next big thing in pickups. :rolleyes:
     

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