Friedman cabinets. Anyone played the 412/15 butterslax CAB?

[octopus]

I am trying to choose between the Friedman 412 and the 412/15. Has anyone here tried both, and able to share experiences?

My amps are: Friedman JJ, Soldano SLO, Randall Satan.

I play high gain metal tuned to C standard. Lots of trem picking and palm muted galloping. My band plays loud. 2 guitars, bass, drums, vox.

My common sense is telling me to go with the 412. Better chance of being able to get it out of my car and back into my house by myself after a gig. More options for swapping speakers. But I am having trouble resisting the allure of pushing air out a pair of those 412/15 cabs.

Thanks for any input.



http://friedmanamplification.com/cabinets/412-vintage-cabinet

http://friedmanamplification.com/cabinets/412-15-cabinet-checked

 

[ledzep618]

I mean realistically I'd just go 4x12. But now that I know that the 4x12/15 is thing I really want one...

 

[octopus]

I mean realistically I'd just go 4x12. But now that I know that the 4x12/15 is thing I really want one...

That is pretty much exactly how I feel. Insanely curious about the experience of cranking an amp through this thing. Envisioning a pair of 4x12/15s side by side, with a head centered on top.

Problem is, a v30/GB mix in the 412s is a proven formula. I have some idea of what I'm going to get. No idea what a Celestion 15" Fullback/G12H-30 combo sounds like in comparison.

 

[Heinz57Pep]

Lots of trem picking and palm muted galloping.

Those 15s might not respond fast enough for you. Too much "sag" if you will. That's why 10s are a desirable speaker size for bass. All of the low end with a faster attack. 15s are something a reggae bass player would prefer.

 

[ur2funky]

Some good points there Heinz57Pep.

Isn't the 12/15 cab around 100 pounds? Ah, to be young again. Get the bass player to help!

 

[A-Mags]

Bump for 2022! Who has had experience with them, the 412/15 by now?

 

[NorCal_Val]

I didn’t like my Randall Satan through my Friedman 4x12. It just wasn’t the right cab for the Satan. For the Satan, I used one of my Boogie Recto 4x12(360w). It sounded amazing at band volume levels.
Now, the Friedman 4x12(V30s and Greenbacks) is THE 4x12 for the Suhr PT100SE, Ampeg VL1002, and the Marshall SL-X.

 

[A-Mags]

I didn’t like my Randall Satan through my Friedman 4x12. It just wasn’t the right cab for the Satan. For the Satan, I used one of my Boogie Recto 4x12(360w). It sounded amazing at band volume levels.
Now, the Friedman 4x12(V30s and Greenbacks) is THE 4x12 for the Suhr PT100SE, Ampeg VL1002, and the Marshall SL-X.

Are you referring to the 412/15 model or just a Friedman 4x12?

 

[NorCal_Val]

Are you referring to the 412/15 model or just a Friedman 4x12?

Just the 4x12. I haven’t seen/heard the 412/15 cab.

 

[VooDooClown]

Bumping this old thread to see if anyone else has any experience with the Friedman 412/15 cab.

 

[Sirloin]

This TGPer had one. Might want to message him. No affiliation.

Sold - Friedman 4x12/15 Cab. Local Los Angeles

Perfect condition Friedman 4x12/15 cab. Local Pickup in Los Angeles. $1200 2x12" G12H30 / 2x15" 15G15G Loaded; The Friedman 412/15 CHECKED is a monster cabinet loaded with 2x12” Celestion G12H 30 Anniversary and 2 x 15" Celestion Full-Back speakers. This closed-back speaker cabinet which...

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[VooDooClown]

This TGPer had one. Might want to message him. No affiliation.

Sold - Friedman 4x12/15 Cab. Local Los Angeles

Perfect condition Friedman 4x12/15 cab. Local Pickup in Los Angeles. $1200 2x12" G12H30 / 2x15" 15G15G Loaded; The Friedman 412/15 CHECKED is a monster cabinet loaded with 2x12” Celestion G12H 30 Anniversary and 2 x 15" Celestion Full-Back speakers. This closed-back speaker cabinet which...

www.thegearpage.net

Thanks for the info, much appreciated.

 

[losangeles33]

The cab is incredible however it needs to be matched with the right head. Not so much a Marshall type but a high gain head like the butterslax. Obviously it has a thunderous low end which is hard to dial out but very pleasing nonetheles.
oddly where this cab really shines as well are the cleans. The guy who purchased it from me did so only for the cleans. In the end I wanted more of a standard 4x12 and settled on a Mesa OS. Still a big cab.
I don’t know if I would have chosen the g12h for the 12 inch speakers in the Friedman but thats just me. Dave knows better. If I had unlimited room in my rehearsal space I would have never sold it. It’s a unique experience that has its place But the low end can overpower in a band setting-again not necessarily a bad thing.

yeah, it’s a monster to move. One gig with it and that was it. I opted for one of my 2x12s after that

 

[VooDooClown]

The cab is incredible however it needs to be matched with the right head. Not so much a Marshall type but a high gain head like the butterslax. Obviously it has a thunderous low end which is hard to dial out but very pleasing nonetheles.
oddly where this cab really shines as well are the cleans. The guy who purchased it from me did so only for the cleans. In the end I wanted more of a standard 4x12 and settled on a Mesa OS. Still a big cab.
I don’t know if I would have chosen the g12h for the 12 inch speakers in the Friedman but thats just me. Dave knows better. If I had unlimited room in my rehearsal space I would have never sold it. It’s a unique experience that has its place But the low end can overpower in a band setting-again not necessarily a bad thing.

yeah, it’s a monster to move. One gig with it and that was it. I opted for one of my 2x12s after that

Thanks for the info and insight, much appreciated!