G.E Smith Suggests no Treble

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  1. mikenixon316

    mikenixon316 Member

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    I watched the interview with G.E Smith that someone posted yesterday, and he said that when playing Strats or Teles you should turn the Treble on the Amp all the way off.

    To me this seemed a somewhat outlandish suggestion. What do you think?
    Does anyone here do that? I tried it myself with my Strat and Tele into my Blues Jr. and it just didn't sound quite right to my ears. I usually keep the treble quite low, but all the way off seems a bit extreme.

    :hiP
     
  2. wingwalker

    wingwalker Fuzzy Guitars

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    It all just depends...Blues Saraceno is another player that does that from time to time.

    I have moved over to mostly amps with just a single tone control these days and really prefer that most of the time but depending on the amp, guitar and mostly the speaker turning the treble all the way down can work out great...
     
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    I think GE Smith lost his hearing
     
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    with a fuzz that can work ok with some guitars

    ....oh treble on the AMP....nevermind :eek:
     
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  5. wingwalker

    wingwalker Fuzzy Guitars

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    Quite possible...he's been doing it for a long time now and he does play quite loud! However everytime I hear a guitar player thats starting to loose his hearking I can tell because their tone is all top end, I've never heard GE sound like that plus the fact that he's rolling off the extra top end makes me think that his hearing is more than fine...the ones that I worry abotu are the ones that are all top because they can't hear high anymore.
     
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    To each his own. If GE prefers no treble, that's fine. Not for me, thanks.


    EDIT: I think this belongs in Amps & Cabs, not Guitars In General.
     
  7. fullerplast

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    OTOH, Jim Campilongo uses teles and puts the amp treble on 9.....

    Use what works for you. It certainly should depend on the amp at the very least.

    (FWIW, I took some lessons years ago with GE and he certainly did not set his tweed deluxe that way for his old tele.)
     
  8. wingwalker

    wingwalker Fuzzy Guitars

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    I bet! Keep in mind on an amp with a single tone control if you turn it all the way down it gets VERY dark, thick and has almost NO gain...
     
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    He had one of the best tones on SNL that I've heard on TV. I think the point he's trying to make is that high end is directional and if you adjust it based on what it sounds like aimed at the back of your legs below your knees, it will be way too bright aimed directly at someone's head or through the mic that's feeding the P.A.
     
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    Ha ha...

    Or maybe hes has too much of it and has to take of the treble.
    For myself, I leave the treble at 8 and it's damn fine.
    To each is own I guess...
     
  11. Wescaster

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    I play mostly my Glendale Tele through a 66 BFDR and I've found the treble so hard to get away from that I have had good results turning the treble down to 2 or 3. Bass to 4 or 5. I coud'nt imagine doing that with a Les Paul.
     
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    FlackBase Felonious Monkey Gold Supporting Member

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    My tastes lie somewhere between GE Smith and Roy Buchanan.
     
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    I wonder if that was said kinda tongue-in-cheek...?
    GE seemed to get pretty good tones when he was on SNL and on the CD with Buddy Guy. In both cases, it didn't sound as if all of the amps' treble had been rolled off....


    Peace,

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  14. Mark Ray

    Mark Ray We're Jammin' Gold Supporting Member

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    Well, after attending a gear talk session a long time ago in a galaxy far away (Stephensville, MD to be exact), I have turned the treble all the way off, and bass and mid all the way up on my Marshalls. The end result? IMHO huge improvement in my tone! I run an eq pedal in by board, and make some adjustments there as needed for different guitars, but long gone is the "ice-pick" sound so many people have spoken of concerning Marshalls.

    Mark
     
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    RussB low rent hobbyist Silver Supporting Member

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    Comments taken out of context...

    What amp(s) in particular was GE talking about? For all you know it was a Tweed Deluxe with a single tone pot.
     
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    wingwalker Fuzzy Guitars

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    In the vid he was talkin' about using a Blues DeVille
     
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    Not for me, either...maybe he meant Bass off on amp..
     
  18. bluesjuke

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    Maybe so Kenny because I read Buddy saying that he keeps the Bass all of the way down on Bassmans when he was plays those.
     
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    Depends on the tone you want. If you want a thick gainy tone, turning the down the treble will help you get there.

    Of course, it depends on your amp. On one Marshall I owned, it was usual for players to turn the bass to about 8, mids to about 7, and treble down to 2. Yes, I know GE uses Fender's almost exclusively. Just saying.

    And, yes, Buddy turns his bass down to 0, mids, treble, and presence all the way up on his latest Bassman amps. Bass down to 0 doesn't kill the bass though - there's still plenty there. I own a Chicago Blues Box Buddy Guy Sig and run it at these settings myself. Putting the bass even up to 2 is very boomy and unnecessary unless you're looking to shake surrounding objects.
     
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    I don't know who this Smith guy is but when I've played Fender guitars I've always turned the treble on the amp down to 3 or 4. I can still hear because of this. :p
     

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